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@token_male wrote:
the mother will claim it was post natal depression that done it, just like the mothers who jump onto tain trakcs with their kids, and like the mothers who shake the babies to death
post natal depression covers alot of stuff up
I hope it doesn’t come into play as far as this case is concerned TM. Iv’e never heard anyway of anyone suffering from post natal depression being driven to taking heroin!!The mother who jumped under a train with her kids? I’m not so sure that was post natal depression, wasnt it more the abuse she suffered at home, and didn’t know any other way, tragic as it was, the real tragedy is that she saw that as the only way out of her situation.
Without wishing to imflame you TM, I don’t know your views on it, but to a lot of men, post natal depression is a figment of women’s imagination. Having once been a sufferer of it, I can assure you, it was no figment of my imagination.
Hiya Cath, you know how I feel on this kind of subject and I too was all for calling for him to be sacked, until I listened again to what he said on last nights news.
It is a bit of a grey area…….and I have to say that what he says about a boy of 15 having sex with a girl of 13/14 shouldn’t automatically be classed a peadophile, it is what kids do now. There was a girl of 12 years old on the TV yesterday saying she wanted a baby, wanted 3 by the time she was 16, then the council would give her a nice house to live in and the benefits would give her money to live on, how true is that one!! only have to look around your local high st at the amount of gymslip mums, children bringing up children.
I work in a social industry, off license to you lot lol. Some of the young girls who come in there on fri and sat nights!! jeeeeeeez, im glad iv’e not got daughters! They lie to me about their age, (they still don’t get served without producing ID) so theyre going to lie to the nice looking bloke in the nightclub huh, who might be 18 / 20 ? Can we seriously class that person as a peadophile if he ends up having sex with her, and THEN! finding out she’s only 14. It’s a really dodgy area.
I can’t remember where it was, but when I was in the car this afternoon, the news came on, and it said that the police had stopped several people today and had used this new fingerprinting device. One driver was found to be ok, he was the owner of the vehicle etc., but it was found that he was currently on a ban! another driver also stopped, was found to be un-insured.
Despite previous reservations about it, it does seem to work.
@dead_on_arrvial wrote:
In Brighton we have a very cheap and fast local bus service. You can travel all day for £3.20 anywhere in Brighton area.
Has I am trying to save the planet and parking is a pain in the ass, I do take the bus to our office about 630am each day.
There always a young girl at the bus stop, she in school uniform and can be older than 10 years old. She always on her own and looks very cold.
I can’t understand what’s she doing there at that time, after all schools starts at 9am.
Today 2 women police officers saw her and after a short chat, called for police car to take her to the police station.
I could not hear why.
So maybe some one with kids can tell me why a school kid would be taking the bus so early and why the police got involved
Maybe she has to travel a long way to school, but if she is only 10 years old, maybe the police think it’s un-acceptable to travel at that time of the morning by herself.
Kids in my area, a lot of them anyway, travel to senior school by bus, 11 to 16 yr olds, not at that time of the morning though, who knows?
@drivel wrote:
For once i’m in agreement with you too today Cas ( i must be having bad week – it’s only just started ) ffs
Anyway what i would like to ask you is why the need to inject paint mix ?????/
Lol Drivel.
I don’t think they do them anymore, at least iv’e not seen them in places liked B & Q, Homebase etc., They were a large plastic kind of syringe, you’d gradually ‘inject’ or aqueeze it into a pot of (normally) white paint to get the exact colour you wanted. This one was a dark brown, himself, in his infinate wisdom, thought it was chocolate :wink:
@cath 55 wrote:
cas my heart goes out to you but you made me think bout the i would kill them thing. I knew a dad who’s daugter had her hair set on fire by some youths in London, she was 9 years old.
He went out found the youths and he had a baseball bat with him, though he didnt kill any of them he caused some serious harm. Cas he was put into prison for 4 years for that. Now , this is my point, he now feels so guilty not about what he did, but not in actual fact being there when his daughter needed him. he is now (shes now eighteen) spending every waking moment trying to make up in any way he can. Unfortunately his daughter a manic depressive now but Some of it is due to the fact that anything his duaghter wants she gets from him. He is divorced and brings his daughter up himself, he goes to work but makes sure that she is with someone all day and wil drop everything to be with her if called. He has no social life he beats himself up everyday with out fail mentally for ‘leaving her’ when as he said she needed him most.
those youths that did that to her are now free living their lives where as this guy and his daughter have a life sentence.
cas hunnie my heart really does go out to you , what you must have gone through and still do is unthinkable , I wish you and yours peace hunnie xxxx just hugs cas xxxx
Thankyou Cath xxx
I do have peace………I can never help the anger boiling up whenever I see him, I spose I never will, all part of being a parent I expect. He hadn’t touched Mike, but didn’t prevent him having to be questioned by the police, although they were very good with him. He’ll never have peace, I saw the look of fear in his face, wondering perhaps if i’d name and shame him ? who knows ? but while people recognise him and know what he is, he’ll never have peace, small comfort perhaps, but better than nothing.
It’s awful what happened to that man and I suspect he’ll blame himself for the rest of his life for what he did, not that he hurt those people but as you say, it took him away from her when she needed him most. I think though, that the court sending him away for 4 years was despicable. Specially when you think about some of things these little toe rags do and they end up on young offenders courses, having holidays in the caribbean and generally being treated likey they’re!! the victim!!
People do need to stand together and MAKE this p ussy footing government change the laws in favour of the victims, and deal out effective punishment to the offenders instead of bowing to their every whim!
Clarification of Young Offenders Institute………………….(couple I know who’s son was in one)
He went out in the morning and was told to be back for lunch,,,,,,,,,he returned at 9.30 at night,,,,,,,was greeted by one of the ”officers” in charge and was told, awwww Tony, you missed your dinner, would you like me to get you something,,,,,,,,,he demanded she go get him McDonalds and she did………………………………This was all in full view of his parents, who protested,,,,,,,,,,,,they were told, well we can’t starve them.
Y’know what Cath,,,,,,,,,,i’d have forced that COLD!! dinner down his bloody neck!!
I don’t for one minute, doubt anything you said Pats……….I was slated once, on these boards, no doubt by the very do-gooders your talking about, for saying that people like this should be sterilised,,,,,,,,,,in order to prevent them from bringing any more children into the world only to suffer this kind of abuse, cos that’s what it is when it comes down to it, abuse!! It was all, noooo, they need help etc etc., yea they need help alright, kind of help i’m thinking about though is against the law,,,,,,,,,,,unfortunately :twisted:
No, I don’t suppose it was given to the child deliberately, well at least I hope not :evil: But a one year old child moves around independently and has probably picked it up!! Even so, yea good question, where were the social workers, I can’t believe that social workers wouldn’t have already been involved in her life. Oh I know, they were overworked,,,,,,awwww.
When my son was about 2 or 3 Pats, he’d gotten hold of one of those paint mixer syringes, don’t ask me how! it was on top of the microwave, which was on a shelf high on the wall, seconds it took!! I couldnt believe it!…………I rushed him straight to hospital ,,,,,,,, never had anything like it happen before, never had cause to take him for anything before, but I was treated like scum! People like these seem to be treated like royalty!!!
Aint that the truth Esme!!!
Only have to look up archives of crimes involving money, and the sentences given out!!!
So would I Cath………..
Iv’e said this before. When I was with my hubby, we lived in a road not far from where I live now. Next door but one, lived David, bit of a simpleton, or so we thought. He used to look after my house, and the dog, if we were away for a weekend, makes me sick to my stomach now that that man was in my house.
My son was playin out on the field out back one sunday afternoon, we called him in for his dinner, his freind, who was two years older, stayed out there, he’d asked can Robert come in and wait and I said no, he should go home, his dinners probly ready, he didn’t and that animal assaulted him.
He got 6 months,,,,,,,,he was allowed to live at his house while out on bail, and he’d regularly taunt pple with,,,,,,,,cant touch me, i’ll call police and have you done for assault!!!
I saw him couple weeks ago, at very busy station ………………. the same old feelings of wanting to kill him were as fresh as they were 11 years ago, when this happened, cos he hasnt changed, and he never will. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
@cath 55 wrote:
@bat wrote:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/17112006/344/website-names-missing-paedophiles.html
Do you think it,s good idea to post details like this, or not?
The details that have been published Bat are of already convicted paedophiles, and yes i do think its a good idea, however, and this is the fly in the ointment, I do worry bout look alikes, you will always get someone who thinks the person they just passed in the street/live next door to/works in the local shop etc and these perfectly innocent people wil be targeted ……..hmmmmm I think I just talked myself out of publishing these mens details ……
But anything that can save even one child from the horrors of abuse cant be all bad but for the reason a bove …….
hugs batty xooxxox
I agree Cath, and it’s unfortunate, the police have put out statements to ask pple not to turn to vigilante action, because they could get the wrong person. But I do still think it’s a good idea.Surely to god though, these particular ones being missing, is the best reason in the world to have these scum bags tagged. Never mind about the bleeding hearts and the do-gooders running off at the mouth about their human rights. The day they molested children, damaging them for the rest of their lives, is the day that their own human rights, ceased to exist :twisted: Iv’e often wondered how these same people who support them, would feel it it was their own child who’d been assaulted, would they still be standing proud, in defence of their human rights! I think not. If they were tagged properly, they would never have been lost in the first place.
