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It IS true. They DO work. They significantly reduce your chances of getting covid and reduce the risk of serious illness if you do catch it. Not sure why this is difficult to understand.
Please read the earlier discussion about the definition of what a vaccine is.
It must provide immunity to a virus.
If it doesn’t reliably do this then it fails at being a vaccine.
Wearing a mask (arguably) reduces your chances of getting covid, it isn’t a vaccine.
Would you get onboard a plane that lands without crashing 85% of the time?
That isn’t to say that you shouldn’t get the vaccination, but consider the earlier discussion about care home workings being required to have vaccinations.
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draculina. Reason: Realisticly the lower number should be used as the care worker would work there for longer than 6 months
For compassion:
Cholera vaccines are vaccines that are effective at preventing cholera. For the first six months after vaccination they provide about 85 percent protection, which decreases to 50 percent or 62 percent during the first year.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholera_vaccine
If you look at cholera vaccines effectiveness rates ageist our covid 19 vaccines, there about the same. Cholera vaccines have and still are saving millions of lives each year.
Then I would say that the Cholera vaccine doesn’t work very well. Vaccines are something that it is important to get right, especially when you are trying to use them as a justification for something like lifting the lockdowns.
Would you get onboard a plane that lands without crashing 85% of the time?
You can contract covid despite being vaccinated. The risk of being seriously ill with it is much less.
If this is true then the vaccines don’t work.
Not sure why this is so hard for some people to understand.
This is why I said that the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) only targeting the spike protien may turn out to be a flaw in their design.
Drac…you are suggesting doctors will jab anything into you (any covid vaccine) without taking into your medical history etc…like I said..thats absurd….
I’m not sure what hospitals you’ve been to then, none of the ones i’ve ever been to are nearly this organised.
The random nurse that is on vaccination duty will just be given a box of vaccines and told to give them to people. She won’t know who you are or anything about your history.
She isn’t going to wait 6 hours for someone to go and get your paperwork out of storage from another building a mile away. She would then have to fight though multiple layers of bureaucracy to confirm this with an immunologist (assuming there is one in), then another set of bureaucracy to actually get the vaccine brought down.
I don’t understand your logic….or anyone elses who wont be vaccinated for no genuine reason
What is a “genuine” reason then?
You can contract covid despite being vaccinated. The risk of being seriously ill with it is much less.
If this is true then the vaccines don’t work.
Not sure why this is so hard for some people to understand.
Thirdly, this is the numpty who claims people with autoimmune disorders don’t have an immune system. LOL!
That’s generally the point of taking immunosupressant drugs, yes.
You work out which part of the immune system is malfunctioning and you shut it down so it can’t damage anything.
That may or may not effect if vaccines work, or are safe depending on which drug is used.
Not hard to understand really.
Why do you think an unvaccinated care worker, looking after your elderly mother isolated in a carehome, is not the main danger?
I’m told that all elderly people (with some exceptions) are vaccinated.
So if the vaccines work, this wouldn’t be an issue because the elderly mother would not be able to contract covid.
Are you doubting the effectiveness of the vaccines?
However, my opinion is that people in the UK who refuse the vaccine for reasons other than medical reasons should be not entitled to the same rights as everyone else.
So I’m guessing that from this post you are in full support of the vaccines for the majority of people?
I’m not sure what “full support” means.
I think generally the vaccines are safe if people want to take them, I don’t know much about the blood clotting issue with the AstraZeneca one. If people don’t want a vaccine they shouldn’t get one, and shouldn’t be forced to.
I don’t believe the vaccines are some kind of conspiracy to change people’s DNA. mRNA isn’t really able to do that, and if it could then it would be easier just to poison drinking water supplies with it if you wanted to do that.
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