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@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
I was making the point that racism is not natural, instinctive behaviour and is something that is learnt.
Im willing to believe that, but only if you can prove we dont naturaly believe in the chracteristics, ability or policy of a group of people with a common feature?
I think your scared to admit it. Prove me wrong?
@Mr Amphibian wrote:
Please try to understand me rather than just saying no!
If only i had the time.
Your trying to engage in this threads subject. This threads subject is not about you, its about good racism. Learn to understand that, then come back to me.
@Mr Amphibian wrote:
Ok. I’m getting confused over what we are arguing about here.
This thread was produced to talk about good racism.
I’ve just told you what is bad about racism. It’s about the current meaning of the word. Let’s be more plain.
There is no current racism that doesnt include all racism, good or bad.
All welsh people shag sheep
All Scots are tight-fisted and alcoholic
All English are upper-class football hooligans
All Irish are thick
The whole point about the above is that it makes the people who say/believe it feel superior to those who they are saying/believing it about.
THAT’s what the word “racism” means in 2006No, theres more than what you say. Click on the first post links of this thread for confirmation.
Also, in these modern times of liberalised society, those who implement it choose to ignore all racism, and focus on the bad, because they believe that their political enemies support bad racism, therefore makes the lefty liberalised mob “look good”, and thats all they care about.There are good things about liberalisation, but our liberalised political masters take it too far, and thus we get a sesspit society.
The definition that you have found refers mainly to physical characteristics: e.g The indigenous population of Europe is mainly white-skinned. Fact.
Your missing the point. A race of people (as described by the OED), amongst other things, is a group of people with a common feature. They could be a football team, a work force at a bank or a group of stamp collectors. Us posters on this website are a racial group of people, because we share a common feature.
If someone believes in the chracteristics, ability or policy of us, the football team, the dinner ladies or the stamp collectors, then thats racism.
YES, it sounds DAFT, but thats ONLY because weve been taught that racism is only a bad thing. We are all racist, and fascist sometimes.I would be fascinated to know if you are suggesting something else? You seem very keen to make a point but I don’t understand what it is. (Genuinely confused: not being nasty)
I am not suggesting anything other than the facts in which i have presented. In our political and social society climate, its very understandable for the general public to assume that im talking about racism thats bad.
For you to understand what im saying better, ignore bad racism.@Mr Amphibian wrote:
There is no such thing as racist in a “good” way. The current meaning of the word “racism” is negative. It means assuming NEGATIVE attributes for an individual based on what we “know” about their ethnic background, culture etc.
Whats bad and/or negative about believing in the specific chracteristic, ability or policy of a group of people, who share a common feature???
The definition you are quoting is very specific, and NOT the meaning which every normal human being gives the word.
Im not distancing myself from the other meanings…im not saying this one is the only one.
We as a collective society generally only think racism is bad, when infact its harmless and bad.How does it feel, to know you are racist from time to time, and still be classed as nice?
If I were to say I was “gay” would you think I was happy and carefree? or would you think I liked shagging members of my own sex? There, THAT plain enought for you? :roll:
EH???
@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Racism is not natural, it is learnt behaviour.
As for no global warming, not killing the planet and no water shortages, you must be on crack.
So you never believe in the specific chracteristic, ability or policy of a group of people, who share a common feature??? Your having a larrrrrf.
I suspect the crack is keeping you from admitting the truth in your life :wink:
@Mr Amphibian wrote:
How does it feel to be racist from time to time?
OF COURSE I’m racist (in the “bad” sense of the word) from time to time. One of the things I DO agree with you about is that it is fairly natural for human beings to be that way.
How does it feel to be racist in a good way?
@james Belfast wrote:
Emma all over – she picks up on the one website or press cutting that supports her ideology and ignores the thousands of others that tell it how it really is.
What have i ignored? All ive done is express the ways in which we all are racist from time to time. Your problem is, you dont like the truth, because the truth upsets your brainwashed ideology of society. You’d prefer we all think all racism is very very bad.
So there is NO water shortage, eh? Did you read that somewhere, Emma? The water companies want us to use less water so that they can earn less profits for their shareholders, I suppose?
Take a look outside?
Take a look at the world map, its 2/3’s water.
Why dont water companies prevent leaks, leaks that cost us more water per person, than we use.
Now they want to charge us double. Time to buy shares in water companies me thinks.There is NO global warming, eh? I suppose a professor or someone said that somewhere? Great, lets all start smashing our fridges up in the back garden this weekend and release some more ozone. Yippee! Roll on summer!
EVERY 100,000 years or so, we get to a situation globally like we have. In 50,000 years or so, they’ll be ice age.
Racism is GOOD for you – of course it is! I can guess where you picked that one up from.
Make ANY sense mr belfast :roll:
the mouth of a well-known lunatic English fundamentalist.
FASCIST!
Anyway, I see that English cricket team picked a chap in a turban? Wot’s all that about ffs??? I thought everyone had to come from Yorkshire??? Or is that Rugby League?
Why the racism mr belfast :D YOU RACIST, but your not a bad person :wink:
@Mr Amphibian wrote:
The evidence you provide to support your opinions is often obviously incomplete. E.g see the multiple definitions of racism above (whereas you gave only the one which supported your own argument). But I’m sure you understood what you were doing at the time. 8)
Have you thought of standing for political office? Or are you there already? :)
Do you not agree that a word can have more than one meaning?
Racism has many, amongst them, a meaning that isnt considered bad.I think your scared that the non bad meaning of racism would mean that we’ll think racism accross the board is ok. You might be worried that your racist sometime, and that somehow doesnt fit into your mind very well, mainly because you’ve been TOLD that racism is only bad.
How does it feel to be racist from time to time?
@forumhostpb wrote:
[You’re really confusing me now Emmatwit – does it mean that anybody who doesn’t share your unique view on society is a Fascist. I mean, are we allowed to put a contrary point of view without being instantly branded a Fascist?
Mind you I do like the idea of this Fascism stuff – thank you for introducing it to me. Strutting around in Lederhosen and screaming abuse at anybody who disagrees with me is quite appealing in a strange sort of way.
Intolerance is fascism. You can have a contrary view, just dont be intolerant with it.
I sense frustration towards my words from you? “emmatwit”, rather childish dont you think.
@rubyred wrote:
ooh pis off,,,at least emma makes ya sit up and take note,,we might NEVEr agree but she is damm clever! and JUST sometimes i DO listen and THINK over what she says! at least she is open in her hatred of folks,,you tories cant make yer minds up,,! yer we KNOW yer worse.!
id rather have emma any day o the week kid!
Thanks. I believe in the truth, and if someone prefers to ignore it, than thats their problem.
When i first posted this thread, people viewed, but didnt respond. Possibly because they didnt know how to. I mean, how does one in a society that teachers racism as only ever been and is a bad thing, then someone breaks that thought process in half, its hard.
Theres a cracking bit of a film (i think called V for Vendetta) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757267008400743688&q=everybody%27s+gotta
Its about 9/11 mainly, but run it on 29 mins, and theres a bit that explains partly what im onabout.
PEOPLE BELIEVE THE ILLUSION OF THE MEDIA AND THEIR POLITICAL AND SOCIAL IDEOLOGY. They DO NOT want you to think or believe, that racism can be ok, because it puts you in a more powerfull position, that they find harder to control, control you/us. Politicians cant preach “good over evil” if you think racism isnt what they want you to believe.Its not just racism, there are water shortages :roll: YEAH RIGHT!!! No such thing my friends.
Global warming, YEAH RIGHT!!! Were killing the planet? NO WE ARE NOT!!
The iraq war is against terror, NO IT AINT, WE (BRITISH,AMERICANS ETC) ARE CAUSING TERROR.If the media have nothing of “worth” to say, we switch off, they dont have a job. If they make you BELIEVE through illusion, that water shortages are a big story, you stay tuned.
They make you think that racism is only bad, because your shocked by it, shock (illusion) SELLS. The facts are, that racism can be ok, that dont sell well.
Imagine if we didnt agree with “normal” political and social ideology? Then the media illusion would have to change.
Neil tennant of the pet shop boys said on thursdays bbc1 “this week”, the early eighties (pop music) were about the “agressive individual”. He said, there was a community spirit back then.
On the flip side, from the mid eighties to now, weve become less agressive, less individual, more professionalised (pop idol), money is power.
The media have sold us the illusion that having the individuality to think for ourselves is wrong. We listen to them, they have our attention, we buy what they sell us, we dont argue against them, weve lost faith in the community spirit.
See how easy it is to sell an ilegal war, EVEN THOUGH A MILLION PEOPLE MARCHED IN PROTEST AND THE MEDIA SHOWED IT TO US, we were still illusionised to believe the war is justifiable.
JUSTIFIABLE??? Dont worry, its just an illusion
