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Of course it wasn’t a lie… his son would have died if he hadn’t done something.
You lot are all sick in the head.
He was being sarcastic and ironic when he said he was lying, because clearly nobody who loves their children would lie about something as awful as this.
Not there
October 2004
The link ROTT put up explains it, but just for those that can’t be bothered to link or read it, an abbreviated explanation:
I recently did a refresher course, and this is moreorless what they advise now.
If the person is coughing and managing to breathe even though still with a partial obstruction, you leave them to try and clear it themselves.
If they are not breathing or coughing and are clearly choking, they say try the heimlich maneouvre. They say keep persevering even if it doesn’t work immediately. If they pass out, keep doing the subdiaphragmatic abdominal thrusts and then check the throat with a finger for the obstruction and clear it out of the way if you can. Keep at it, don’t stop. Send someone else to get help eg an ambulance.
PB you are right, they don’t say hit them on the back.
Stand behind the person and clasp both hands mid way between the bottom of the breast bone and the belly button. Pull both hands towards you and upwards sharply. This squeezes the diaphragm. This can be done on adults and children, but this method is not appropriate for babies and infants. Use your common sense if you are a burly bloke with muscles like an all in wrestler, or if you don’t know your own strength. The idea is to expell air, not to break ribs.
In cases of extreme obesity or late pregnancy, use chest thrusts rather than abdominal thrusts.
For babies and infants you put them face down over your knee and slap their backs withthe heel of your hand between the shoulder blades. Make sure you support the head which should be lower than the body. Then turn it over so it is facing upwards and you can use your fingers to deliver four short thrusts over its breast bone. Then repeat. If they become unconscious, keep at the back slaps and the breast bone thrusts and get an ambulance. Check every now and then to see if the object has moved up into the mouth or top of the throat.
If you want a more detailed explanation, use the link earlier in this thread.
I had to do this to my daughter when she was about 6. Never seen a piece of shell pasta fly so far or so fast before! It shot across the room after about the 4th attempt to shift it. Time stands still. I changed the position of my hands slightly between attempts. Basically you will do anything to save your child.
@melech wrote:
I apologise if my message was misunderstood. All I wanted to do was to give everyone at JC my sincere best wishes. I expected nothing in return. Once again, my apologies for not being clear.
Melech
Don’t let them get to you Melech, it was a kind thought
Yes, I know, and mine is pretty wide too! :wink:
I will go with the flow nanny, and it just goes to show we both have impecable taste :D
I’ll give you one
Moi
This is the 21st century fastcars, it is the modern way. You are living in the past. People don’t just stay and cyber behind their screens, they get out there into the real world and live, with people that they may have first met online. What an odd thought you say, well try talking to some teenagers and people slightly younger than yourself, it is a very normal thing to do. What is ABnormal is people who never meet people in the real world, but think that is a scary and sad thing to do.
I have to tell you that before people could afford to have computers in their homes, people actually went out and met people! How shocking is that! But then I am so ancient I remember those times. People seem to be moving back into that kind of world again now, it has come full circle. The difference is that now, people use msn to coordinate where they will meet up, and they add friends to facebook and get to know their friends too. It is much more fluid and exciting that you can ever imagine.
Something for you to consider:
Voidance
It’s a new world out there
A world of safe sex and typed or spoken action.
The new way to have a relationship,
Where you can be whoever you want.
Where people can pretend to be someone else
And the imagination has no limits.
How wonderful!
No AIDS to worry about, no chlamydia or genital herpes
This must be the way to go.
Spread the word, let the new order commence.
No more sweaty exchanges of body fluids.
No No! And who mentioned that dirty word LOVE! Tut Tut!
That shall now and forever be forbidden from this day forth.
Amen.
If you want sex.. just turn on the computer, or pick up the phone.
Safe in your favourite place, you don’t have to even leave your home!
Just turn on the computer, log in and let the fun commence.
You can all eat your home deliveries and drink your beer.
When girths widen and chairs are too tight, you have no need to fear.
Or have you?
When the streets are empty, and the schools are all closed.
When the swings in the park blow silently in the wind,
And there is no one to feed the birds in the park,
Will you look back at this time and wonder?
Will you wonder if you made a mistake? Will you care?
Well, will you?one for nanny ogg
or perhaps this one
