[Morgan.]

sceptical guy wrote:

I hate to be a pedant, Old Bean, but… the Balfour Agreement was about the establishment of a Jewish home in Palestine. The Sykes-Picot Agreement of a year earlier was about the carve-up of the middle East between Britain and France. It’s been re-carved since. The Americans replaced the Brits, with Israel as their man in the Middle East, while Russia moved in to replace the Brits in Egypt. It was recarved a couple of times again, though the Americans (using Fort Israel) remain the dominant power, which seems to impress you more than it does a lot of us. Russia was kicked out of influence in 1990. The re-carving Gerry is referring to is the emergence of Iran and Putin moving in to get his slice of the pie again. Poor bloody Arab civvies. As Paigey noted, their fate is to flee to the welcoming arms of the West as their lands are bombed and re-bombed.

I too hate to be a pedant Old bean but, “re-carve” is the wrong terminology in my opinion. A “re-carve” implies a re-carving, modification of borders, the foundation and deconstruction of countries and territories. Like in the Sykes-Picot Agreement. None of that has happened for a long time, and isn’t currently happening now.

What you describe is more of a regional power shift and influence shift, allegiance shifts. Geographical re-carving is not happening. No borders have been, or will be moved.

Regional power and influence shifts are less permanent than Geographical recarvings.

Jerusalem, and other areas have been under the Ottomans, British and the Israelis in the last 100 years, whilst its borders haven’t changed much

Call me a pedant Old Bean, but I don’t think that (temporary / short term) local regional sectarian shifts in influence quite constitutes a “re-carving”

(As we’re all being so pedantic, can we say re-slice and re-carve are the same ?

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[Morgan.]

“A perfectly executed strike last night. Thank you to France and the United Kingdom for their wisdom and the power of their fine Military. Could not have had a better result. Mission Accomplished!”

Mission Accomplished!

[Morgan.]

Well as of yet, you’ve failed to teach me anything. I think my writings have shown I’m as equipped to opine on this thread as much as the rest of you.

If you believe I’m missing something please feel free to explain to me. If it makes sense, I should get it x

[Morgan.]

sceptical guy wrote:

Iran is the new power to watch in the region.

Define region? Israel is the superpower of the middle east.

[Morgan.]

Ge wrote:

the Middle East region is being carved up and Russia took her chance to get her slice

Erm you’re about a century too late. Balfour Agreement. The middle east was sliced up a long time ago.

[Morgan.]

Ge wrote:

Putin made it clear what Russia’s red lines are. Trump knew better, than to cross them.

Putin knew better than to deny NATO access to their targets x

 

[Morgan.]

Ge wrote:

If you seriously assume America would take on Russia militarily, then you have obviously been smoking that funny smelling tobacco again.

If you seriously assume Russia would take on American militarily, then you have obviously been drinking again

[Morgan.]

Ge wrote:

You know how America became a global superpower and number 1, right?

Do you?

America was a Global Superpower before WW2

[Morgan.]

Ge wrote:

China is going to be the number 1 economic power shortly, no if or buts about it

That is solely on the basis that 1, China has a world to trade with. 2, There hasn’t been a nuclear holocaust and China exists, If there’s no world left there’s no China left.

Ge wrote:

There is absolutely no reason why China would take sides in a nuclear war already taking place and that does not involve her. It doesn’t make sense at all.

Really? how about consolidating the existence of your main trading partner to help preserve your own existence. Basic Darwinian Survialism, and Altruism.

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[Morgan.]

Ge wrote:

Oh dear. Russia is developing and may well already have stealth drone nukes, that travel thousands of miles on the sea bed invisibly to their target and you seriously think Putin is then going to phone up Theresa to reveal those “invisible” nukes.

Nonsense. You cant run a nuclear war on “ifs” and “buts”

And if he don’t have them yet? Maybe Theresa can help him.

Again, does Science & Technology, as well as Evolution only apply to Russia?

How can you say for sure America doesn’t have this technology?

Since when has Russian technology been any superior to the West?

Who would you rather fly with to Johannesburg? Aeroflot or British Airways?

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