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@rubyred wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
@rubyred wrote:
/sulks.
Ruby, Dundee remains rightly proud, regardles LLs of whether he was upside down or not.
LOL !!! that was actually pretty damm funny !
he was not though. he went off to cold parts. ! in a ship built here.
As if Dundee doesn’t get cold enough . . . . . . .
@rubyred wrote:
It WAS and Is a great little passage :) Maybe, I am easily Pleased but it made me chuckle.
/Rita Fairclough. Weatherfield.
Oh Rita! I’m sure your literary perspicacity is wasted on my meanderings, but having said that I’ll take your compliment with true British grace.
(you have to imagine Norris’ voice and specs to get the true meaning)
@rubyred wrote:
/sulks.
Ruby, Dundee remains rightly proud, regardless of whether he was upside down or not.
@terry wrote:
. . . . Ruby…it’s far from being brilliantly written. In fact it’s just the opposite. . . .
It was carefully written, personally authentic. Contains, or hints at as much insight as I can muster for now.
Brilliance, however is subjective and thus a real compliment, thank you Ruby it means a lot.
Terry, you seem to be in a real ‘glass half empty’ kinda mood tonight. But then we both share Norris’ Englishness, don’t we?
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@terry wrote:
@wordsworth60 wrote:
Is Norris from Coronation Street a national, ethnic or racial identity?
He is a character on a soap opera.. . . .
Ain’t we all . . . . . .?
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@sceptical guy wrote:
Mrs T; Panda:
The Arctic, Mrs T??
Are you attempting to recreate Captain Scott’s Last Expedition? . . . . .
Wasn’t Scott at the other end of the planet?
@terry wrote:
We seem to speak the same language, but I could do with a translator.
And yet some say we’re both from Mars . . . . . . .
@terry wrote:
Would it be fair to describe you as the JC equivalent of Norris from Coronation Street? I haven’t a clue what your point is.
Just sharing a perspective on the subject of the thread Terry.
Is Norris from Coronation Street a national, ethnic or racial identity?
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@terry wrote:
@rainbowbrite wrote:
I’m wondering what schools teach these days and do children tweet more than visiting their local library.
I’m just glad I grew up during the pre-mobile phone era. Text speak and lack of basic grammar is endemic in today’s youth. I’m sure rogue trader is going to say how unimportant grammar is in today’s society, but (in my opinion) good grammar relies on sound intellect and good reasoning skills. Let’s not lose sight of that.
I wish I could blame poor grammar on youthful habits, but 5 minutes in JC’s over 40s room will demonstrate enough poor grammar to place the youth of today within a much broader context.
I spent the first 11 years or so of my life as “the Englishman”: the first person in my family born in England. People of all types would identify me with the country of my birth – “But I was born here!” seemed to stop people who said “why don’t you go back to your own country?” in their tracks. I did experience racism, but all English people didn’t necessarily like each other, so I dealt with it with all the skills a child of my age could muster.
As I got older, I was told more often that I couldn’t be English, ‘just’ British. It’s only in the past decade or so that I have reverted to calling myself English, partly from defiance and partly because, despite my great affection for the other UK countries, I am not Scottish, Welsh or Irish, so there’s only one bit of British left for me to be. More than that, I am a Londoner, defined by the streets in which I was raised.
An anecdote – on a holiday in France in my teens, an old French woman was very hostile towards me until she found out that I was not from North Africa (her late husband had fought there), but “Anglais”. I couldn’t help liking her.
I think that modern political and geographical boundaries deserve only the scant respect of convenience that they deserve, as legacies of genocide and exploitation. However I also feel there are characteristics that we inherit collectively. Whether we adopt them or reject them is our right.
For me, ‘English’ is confident enough to allow a gentle strength and to own my choices. ‘British’ is entitled to a place amongst other nations and a responsibility to live with the legacy of the past, bad and good. I own them both without rejecting anything of my parents’ heritage.
