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    #461412

    Doctors have saved a baby, some would describe it as a miracle…what kind of thoughts are you looking for?

    #461413

    not looking for any thoughts in particular jen
    i was just wondering if ppl thought it was a miracle
    or if thought docs should have left alone
    im unsure how i feel to be honest
    i was just interested in what others thought

    #461414

    Well reading here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12634535 which has more info, it would seem to be a miracle of modern healthcare techniques. The baby isn’t showing any signs of brain damage and looks healthy and happy, as does her mother :D

    Whenever people say things like “maybe they should have left it alone” or “nature should have been allowed to take its course” I think of all the people I know who have full rich lives because the doctors didn’t let nature take its course and let them die.

    #461415

    @jen_jen wrote:

    Well reading here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12634535 which has more info, it would seem to be a miracle of modern healthcare techniques. The baby isn’t showing any signs of brain damage and looks healthy and happy, as does her mother :D

    Whenever people say things like “maybe they should have left it alone” or “nature should have been allowed to take its course” I think of all the people I know who have full rich lives because the doctors didn’t let nature take its course and let them die.

    i agree both mother and child look well and i hope and prey things continue to be ok.

    i have lost a child and i know the heartbreak that comes with it

    just wonder sometimes if the doctors are pushing the boundries which dont get me wrong can be a good thing like in this case,
    or if sometimes they can cause more problems and effect ppls quality of life

    is this treatment made available to all still births?
    should this treatment be offered to all stillbirths?
    when or if should doctors step in ?
    i guess as medical breakthroughs happen we will have more mirical storys

    #461416

    I’m sorry to hear of your loss, no words can ever make up for that so here’s a cyberhug from me to you (((((((((( angelbabe ))))))))))

    In reply to your post, it’s because of doctors pushing the boundaries that we have had some of the amazing medical breakthroughs that benefit so many today, but that progress doesn’t come without a price. In the early days of any treatment there will be people whose quality of life may be judged to be less than before they were treated, but then what would their quality of life have been without the treatment? If asked, how many of those would say that they wish they hadn’t let the doctors try?

    Quality of life is also so subjective; what the observer might consider a reduced quality of life, the person affected might consider an acceptable trade-off for the longer term benefits.

    @angelbabe wrote:

    is this treatment made available to all still births?
    should this treatment be offered to all stillbirths?
    when or if should doctors step in ?
    i guess as medical breakthroughs happen we will have more mirical storys

    I don’t think there is a clear cut answer to that…it may help in some still births and not others, depending on the cause of the still birth. The article would suggest that if they can act within the first 24 hours then there is a decreased risk of brain damage, but the brain is still such unknown territory. When, if, how, must be assessed by the doctors on a case by case basis, and I’m sure that as well as miracle stories we will also have stories of children who weren’t so lucky. One good thing about this being highlighted is that more doctors will become aware of how successful the treatment can be and therefore maybe more willing to try it.

    Personally I’m a firm believer that what is meant to be will be, and if it isn’t meant to be then all the doctors and all the intervention possible isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference.

    #461417

    My mum and I discussed this at length the day it was in the newspaper.
    I have to be honest I thought ‘wow’ but when we started to talk about it my mum raised issues like wondering what effect it would have on all the women who have stillbirths but are not offered this treatment for their child, or the saying.. where there is life there is hope.. surely in these instances there is no life.
    I am fairly spiritual, and I wonder what the consequences are to the incarnated soul who is at one moment about to be released back into the spiritual plains and then is thrust back into the mortal form. Anyone ever seen final destination? (I know some people think I just spoke hogwash but unless you can prove me wrong then you have no substance to your theory either)

    #461418

    @melody wrote:

    I am fairly spiritual, and I wonder what the consequences are to the incarnated soul who is at one moment about to be released back into the spiritual plains and then is thrust back into the mortal form. Anyone ever seen final destination? (I know some people think I just spoke hogwash but unless you can prove me wrong then you have no substance to your theory either)

    I haven’t seen final destination, but this goes back to my belief that what is meant to be will be. If the soul/spirit wasn’t intended to survive in mortal form then nothing the doctors could do would hold that soul on the earthly plane.

    So there’s two of us that others might think speak hogwash, but then I can’t prove it right and they can’t prove it wrong :wink:

    #461419

    ‘What is meant to be will be’ is an interesting Calvanistic thought. Taking it as a given, wouldn’t it mean that people weren’t responsible for their actions? Wouldn’t it imply that the most evil of men and women were just victims of fate?

    #461420

    Absolutely not, we’re all responsible for our actions.

    My spiritual beliefs on life, the Universe and everything are far too complex to go into on an online forum. I don’t believe in fate in terms of everything being mapped out in front of us and us being puppets following a predestined course of events. However I do believe that we are born and we die when we’re meant to, although not in terms of “you will die on this date”, and when our time comes there is nothing that anyone can do to stop it. What we do between being born and dying is up to us; we have free will, and with free will comes responsibility, to put it down to fate is avoidance of responsibility.

    But of course these are just my personal beliefs.

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