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5 December, 2007 at 8:00 am #294083
@ubermik wrote:
Thing is tho slayer you (well we) CANT be “racist” towards white europeans, a racist comment by definition is one that encompasses and includes ALL members of a race, which is sorta why its called “racist” rather than “SOME of themist” you see
same would apply to someone saying “you see that black man over there, well hes a tosser”, NOT racist in the slightest even tho many would use the word to describe the comments and the person who made them
But as immigration treats ALL immigrants of all races, cultures and creeds the same it cant and never will be “racist” to comment on it either positively or negatively
It has to be one of the most commonly innacurately used words in existence, well, perhaps pipped to the post buy the word “equality” obviously
Racial discrimination has been inherent in Europe for the last 2,000 years- the Germanic drive for racial suprmeacy at the (deadly) expense of slavic european races is a classic example. Racism is related to race- that we agree on- but to simplify Europe as white european is too generic. There are numerous races (and we could argue the Jewish point as a race as well as a religion) throughout Europe which experience ongoing racism- gypsies in Eastern europe- even though they are both white and european
A black Briton can experience racism because he is british rather than because he is black- xenophobia is closely linked to racism by its very nature yet, as British, we can just as easily be focussed on other white european races as much as black african or “brown” middle eastern
Ultimately scholars are still unable to agree on a definition for racism so it is unlikely we will agree but I can be just as racist to a white Frenchman even though we are both “white” and “eurpoean”
Ultimately the definition of racism is still considered a hot potato
10 December, 2007 at 2:33 pm #294084@ubermik wrote:
Ex smiths singer during an interview commented that the british identity has been lost due to an open door policy on immigration and the flood of immigrants its brought to britain
The publication (NME) said
“He might once have been the voice of a generation, but given his comments in these two interviews, he’s certainly not speaking for us now.”
“Us” who exactly? Seems that a hell of a lot of people ARE infact saying and complaining about just that, even people who dont even live in the UK, werent born here and arent white or indigenous brits too
And how does any of that equate to “racism” anyway? I didnt notice him say “non white immigration” or “white british culture” so the words racism and racist dont actually belong in any statement connected to his comments to begin with and its about time people started having the balls to sue for slander or libel when the words are used innacurately over any and every comment that doesnt fall in love with our minority ass kissing left wing dictatorships perverted ideal of a multicultural nirvanna where anyone white and british spends their life apologising for our history and throwing away our culture because nobody else in the world seems to have any concept of what tolerance means unless THEY want it from someone else
The article is located here
I dont think he sounds as if he’s being racist., hes not insulting anybody. It more just that he’s being honest about what he thinks, in other words it is what he believes. Plus, he does kind of have a point Britain in places is made up of a lot of different cultures. Whenever I want to go the chip shop near me or even the corner shop the owners are British. It dosen’t bother me but it can be hard to understand them. etc…
14 December, 2007 at 10:04 pm #294085Can i call my teddy Morrissey ????
15 December, 2007 at 12:23 am #294086No you can’t ….. his name is Mohammed !!!
15 December, 2007 at 3:51 pm #294087morrisseys reply
http://www.true-to-you.net/15 December, 2007 at 5:19 pm #294088@dagger wrote:
morrisseys reply
http://www.true-to-you.net/Where’s his apology for being a sh/it musician?
16 December, 2007 at 9:37 am #294089I’m sooo sorrryyy…. oohhh IIIIIIIIII’mmmmmm sooooo soooorrrryyyyyyy
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