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    Postnatal psychosis
    What is it?
    Postnatal psychosis is a severe psychiatric disturbance where a mother becomes “out of touch” with reality after the birth of a baby. Some women may also have thoughts of harming themselves or their baby. They may be not be aware that they are behaving abnormally and will have little control over their behaviour.

    For many mothers suffering this condition, there has been no previous history of mental illness. It occurs in normal women, living in normal circumstances. It differs from other mental disorders as it appears to be specifically pregnancy-related.

    It occurs in about one in 300 pregnancies. The causes of postnatal psychosis are not fully understood, but hormonal and biological imbalances are contributing factors.

    It occurs in normal women, living in normal circumstances. It differs from other mental disorders as it appears to be a specifically pregnancy-related psychosis.

    What are the symptoms?
    This will vary from person to person, but the most common are:

    over-active and over-enthusiastic behaviour
    racy thoughts
    grandiose ideas
    excessive behaviour (ie, spending, writing, cleaning)
    elevated or irritable moods
    delusions (false beliefs)
    hallucinations (abnormal perceptions)
    nightmares
    insomnia
    decreased need for sleep
    difficulty with concentration and coordination
    obsessive religious beliefs.
    Some of those affected may talk and think with increased rapidity, eventually becoming disjointed and completely irrational.

    Others may experience severe depressive symptoms, including:

    panic attacks
    inadequacy
    obsessive thoughts
    paranoia.
    How is it treated?
    It is imperative that psychiatric help is sought, because medication is always required for this condition. It does not improve of its own accord. If detected early enough a mother may be treated at home with intensive professional input and support.

    Adequate supervision must be available because the woman should not be left alone with the baby when she is very unwell. Hospitalisation is often necessary. Ideally, the mother and baby should not be separated to ensure that bonding is established in the early weeks.

    The illness usually occurs in the first three months after childbirth, with most occurring in the first two weeks. The first ones to notice that something is wrong are usually family members.

    Following the psychotic episode the woman will need considerable support to come to terms with what has happened to her.

    Women have a tendency to relapse after initial improvement. Some doctors are less sympathetic than others, and find it difficult to explain the disorder and its treatment. Change your doctor if you feel it is necessary. It takes time, but a full recovery can be made.

    There is a chance the condition will recur with further pregnancies, so it is important to seek psychiatric advice and/or counselling before conception so the risk can be reduced. This can be obtained in the public sector. Postnatal psychosis is an acute illness – not a chronic disease.

    Seek help from someone who will be sympathetic. Talking about it will probably help, so don’t underestimate your friends.

    #339512

    I had postnatal depression but never want to stab my kids :? I do think that is where my obsessive behaviour with cleaning came from though.

    #339513

    Thats postnatal psychosis though another article mentioned wanting to harm self and children Dunno if thats what she had though just seems, I dunno, not the thing a woman or more particularly a mother would do Theres exceptions of course

    #339514

    In the deepest darkest grip of psychotic nightmare, Pete, anybody is capable of anything. Gender doesn’t enter the equation -although even if it did, Mother Nature has proven time and again, that “The female of the species is more deadly than the male.”
    Before the usual suspects come bearing pitchforks and torches, howling that nothing could ever compel them to such acts of atrocity, let them thank their gods that they obviously never descended into enough of a hell where the realities of life distorted into foul and warped conceptions, dreads and horrors, beyond the imaginings of Stephen King.

    If and when, sanity is restored to this poor mother – please pity her – because the knowledge of what she has done, will certainly turn her mad with grief!

    #339515

    @sharongooner wrote:

    I read earlier that she was suffering with and diagnosed with post-natal depression.

    1000’s of women suffer with this, but they dont slit their babies throats. To kill one, then another and then attempt to kill a third means she meant to do what she did.

    Plain and simple case of murder and attempted murder to me. Until more facts are released anyway. Even then I cant see myself feeling any pity for anyone other than the children.

    The baby is laying in a hospital critical with a slit throat.

    Couldn’t agree more, too many women are getting away with murder because it’s the time of the month of its Post-Natal Depression It’s always someone elses or somethings fault. Never heard so much c0ck in my life. She should go down and stay down !

    #339516

    @chickenman wrote:

    @sharongooner wrote:

    I read earlier that she was suffering with and diagnosed with post-natal depression.

    1000’s of women suffer with this, but they dont slit their babies throats. To kill one, then another and then attempt to kill a third means she meant to do what she did.

    Plain and simple case of murder and attempted murder to me. Until more facts are released anyway. Even then I cant see myself feeling any pity for anyone other than the children.

    The baby is laying in a hospital critical with a slit throat.

    Couldn’t agree more, too many women are getting away with murder because it’s the time of the month of its Post-Natal Depression It’s always someone elses or somethings fault. Never heard so much c0ck in my life. She should go down and stay down !

    There are degrees of post-natal-depression as with every psychosis. The word ‘depression’ is misleading. For the woman to have reached such an extreme depth – way beyond common understanding – it is more than likely that she was suffering from delusions, at the very least.
    If I’m disappointed in the cruel assumptions made above, sadly I’m not surprised by them.

    #339517

    I feel nothing to the Mother, no ill feeling and no sympathy, just nothing. I dont know what her “punishment” if any should be, and what indeed it would solve.

    Im just saying that to kill not one but attempt to kill three is murder.

    The tragedy has already happened, thats what upsets me. Poor kids. And poor baby, who if she recovers will grow up without her Mother and someday some poor person will have to explain what her Mother did.

    THAT is the tragedy. If she makes it that is.

    #339518

    Quite often the drugs that people are put onto for depression can further enhance the feelings of self harm and suicidal thoughts and tendancies for the first few weeks before making the person begin to feel better.

    My sister had post natal depression but not so severe that she went doolally

    Many women do get post natal depression and sail through to recover but add into the mix not being able to communicate with anyone outside your 4 walls coz of language barriers…. the possibliity that she has no one to turn to family wise in the uk……the chance that she’s spent the last 5 years within the boundaries of her home without a social life, as a woman who in some cultures are still second class citizens, with possibly only screaming children to keep her company???????

    I am not excusing her actions. She is guilty of Child Murder – the most heinous crime there is but I feel it is wrong to just assume that she guilty of cold blooded murder. She has to be a very sick woman. The worst part is when she comes out of her post natal depression…. if she ever does now, she has to live with the guilt of murdering her own children. Can you imagine the feeling of remembering them grow inside you, move, see them take their first breaths and then live with the knowledge that you took that away from them too. God help her.

    I cannot begin to imagine how her husband must feel, not only losing his babies but also the woman he loved has turned into a monster and now on top of all that he will be feeling guilty for not seeing it coming and stopping it. Poor poor man.

    Sad situation all round I think.

    #339519

    I can understand someone maybe shaking a baby to keep it quite in a lapse of control or even throw a baby in a cot and injure them but to get a knife and then kill their own children one by one is not a spontaneous act in my opinion, just pure evil !
    what i would say is this, Were there any sign’s before she had the latest child ? Are we going to find out this is another case of the social services not doing their job ? Are we going to hear the same old “lessons will be learned” speech ? but what ever the reason there is just one simple question, would you ever let someone look after your children if you knew they done something like that even if it was 10,20 0r even 30 years ago because i wouldn’t and if someone told me they only done it becuase they were depressed would not make me feel any better. sorry she has to be locked up if guilty.

    #339520

    @sharongooner wrote:

    Im just saying that to kill not one but attempt to kill three is murder.

    I don’t understand why quantity should alter the perception of this being the tragic act of an insane and desperate woman, to that of a murderess. If anything, it points even more assuredly to the unimaginably distorted and deluded state of the woman’s mind.

    Is it so difficult to grasp the concept of insanity? In this – of all places?

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