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Four more years of Obama is not as bad as four more years of George W Bush.
@panda12 wrote:
@terry wrote:
Maybe you should make a connection between Labour and BNP: both are actively involved with discrimination. UKIP are more concerned with a withdrawal from the EU.
Maybe you should read my opening post on this thread.
UKIP may not be actively involved in discrimination but that’s only because they have no MPs and I believe about seven local councillors – hardly a power base from which to implement their blatant discrimination against anyone who is not a white, British male.
Thankfully, this counrty is far more demograhically diverese.
If you want to believe UKIP are a party based on racism then that’s up to you. But that would probably say more about you and your beliefs than it would about UKIP’s core values.
@momentaryloss wrote:
Not sure that I agree with you about your two examples.
Don’t worry about it – I tend to overlook your reasoning too.
@momentaryloss wrote:
It therefore comes down to ideology.
In reality it comes down to profit and loss and the EU is (always has been and always will be) a trading loss for the UK.
It’s all very well to say we can’t survive without being members of the EU, but that is a completely ridiculous standpoint to have.
China isn’t a member of the EU and they are major traders with all European nations.
Membership of the EU is not a prerequisite for trade and our future well-being is dependant on abandoning the political union we have with the EU.
@momentaryloss wrote:
True Terry the link between UKIP and discrimination is not based on the party’s public platform, but on the avowed views of some of those who associate with it.
UKIP would need to get rid of anyone with BNP or similar connections to escape that.
I don’t agree with the views of UKIP but it needn’t be associated with discrimination. It does however need to take action against what might become its very own lunatic fringe.
All parties have lunatic fringes (Harriet Harman and Chris Bryant spring to mind for Labour).
UKIP will always get smeared with wrong-doing – it’s the nature of politics and something that played a crucial role in yesterday’s US election result too.
@sceptical guy wrote:
@terry wrote:
@momentaryloss wrote:
The only potential route to success we have outside the EU is to compete on wages with the rest of Europe
Our trade with the EU leaves us with a yearly deficit of £60 billion.
Please explain the potential route to success of that stategy.please explain why you ignore answers to this point, and make it as though it’s a simple truism.
Lies, damned lies, and UKIP/Tory Right’s economic statistics
Here’s a quote from the paper today;
Auditors rejected the EU’s budget for the 18th year in succession. The European Court of Auditors said the budget was riddled with fraud and error – and that the situation was getting worse.
It makes you wonder why any country would want to be a member of the EU when it is consistantly proved to be corrupt and fraudulent.
@momentaryloss wrote:
The only potential route to success we have outside the EU is to compete on wages with the rest of Europe
Our trade with the EU leaves us with a yearly deficit of £60 billion.
Please explain the potential route to success of that stategy.Maybe you should make a connection between Labour and BNP: both are actively involved with discrimination. UKIP are more concerned with a withdrawal from the EU.
I’m sorry Mrs T, I thought this was a thread about you (as opposed to the tv programme..)
