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@lil fek wrote:
“With regards to the women you counselled..they obviously had problems or wouldn’t have been there……….I hope you showed them the error of their ways!”
Why would they “obviously” have problems? It was couples so the “obvious problems” were just as commonly the blokes or werent even “problems” at all, just incompatibility or general lifes pressures, I think your thinking of psychology rather than counselling couples for relationship and/sexual problems as niether of those necessarily equate to the individual themselves having problems, infact “THOSE” sort of problems tend to be far more prevalent in singletons really
“Oh and Should chivalry be dead? I think that is up to the man”
Why “the man”? Surely both people should have a say in the matter? An EQUAL say too
Well I think it does tho really, with THIS case the person in question HAS lived here since he was 6 or 7 years old, which to me means that person has lived the most significant part of their life in THIS country
Because of that deporting him would be no more or less abhorrent than deporting someone born here, even a white british kid that was born here
Had, as I said earlier this person come here of their own choosing whilst already an adult I would wholeheartedly agree with deportation. But thats not the case, and to want to deport someone based pretty much solely on skin colour is, unlike most things given this label “racist” in its inception
Also, trying to expand this to be a discussion about ALL blacks or none whites is equally “racist” in the true sense of the word rather than the new academic meaning, as each case wont be the same unless the ONLY factor thats important is skin colour or ethnic origin
Irrespective of this persons skin colour they HAVE lived here for most of their childhood, which as far as I am concerned is a VERY valid point that is being conveniently overlooked
And because of most of this persons life being lived here in the UK this IS for all intents and purposes their “home” and “country” so there isnt a place TO logically deport them to which wouldnt be the case if he had lived his childhood in another country and THEN come here it would be a similar situation in the here and now, but NOT in my opinion the same situation by any stretch of a non biggotted imagination
Well I agree with the point about common courtesy irrespective of gender, age, attractiveness or any other contributing decider
The thing here tho is more one of what we ARE supposed to be seeking as a society
When I was still doing counselling one of the common things that used to make me chuckle was a woman saying first that she wanted to be treated as an equal and later complaining that her partner was never “romantic” any more, when asked the last time THEY were romantic towards their partner I would often get a blank stare as tho I had asked a silly question and on some occassions someone pointing out (as tho I hadnt noticed) that THEY were the woman :|
Yet they wanted to be treated equally lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thats just one of many many quite obvious and commonplace double standards, contradicitions and hypocricies people regularly have but are very rarely even aware of
Chivalry is for the most part a description of something men do in the presence of women and therefore has no real place in a society seeking equality and common gender devoid courtesy with no special exceptions or treatment for “women” would therefore be the replacement
First point there is that they WILL notice they are missing when their benefits shrink
Second point, is that all of what was written there applies as much to white kids british born and bred as it does to anyone else
Infact it applies less at the moment to chinese, asian and some other cultures than it does to white and black kids
I have to admit I almsot also acted like a gullible mindless sheep on this topic after only really hearing about the story via cafe papers and therefore being temporarily influenced by their government influenced slanting of the story
The thing is tho that he HAS lived here since he was 7, had he been a migrant worker or asylum seeker arriving here as an adult I would totally agree with his deportation, infact I would prefer it to have been at the START of his sentence rather than the end so he wasnt then also a drain on british tax payers
But that isnt the case, he came here as a child, and as such this to all intents and purposes IS his home, so as uncomfortable as it might be claimed to be by the teachers wife I do see it as no different than if he had been killed by a british born teenager and should be handled accordingly
As much as some of my views are extremely right wing I personally dont have a right wing agenda and think each case HAS to be individually evalutated rather than blanket conclusions applied
Infact I actually think theres a better arguement for deporting a non offending indoctrinated muslim child than one who is fairly westernised but has offended
@bassingbourne55 wrote:
The parents say that what they did was equivalent to leaving a child asleep in the house while they were in a large garden.
In this country I believe it is illegal to leave a child alone in the house but it is not illegal to let a child wander the streets alone (which is probably more risky). How many people let children only a year or two older than Madeleine walk to and from school on their own?
An analogy: – You lend your car to a relation. Your car is in good condition. They drive through town in a safe manner within the speed limit. Suddenly a car coming the other way pulls out to overtake recklessly, forcing your friend to slam on the brakes to avoid a collision. The cars do not collide but your car slews across the road and knocks down and kills a pedestrian. In the investigation it was found that one of the front tyres on your car was under inflated. But you had checked the tyres the day before and they were all OK. The police cannot find any witnesses to corroborate your friend’s claim that there was a car overtaking dangerously. Who was to blame for the accident? You? Your friend? The alleged overtaking driver? The tyre company?
Some of the people posting here should be ashamed of the nasty, hateful (and possibly libellous) poisoned pen remarks they have posted. Stop crying your crocodile tears just so you can get off on kicking people when they are down.
Seems people are very conveniently forgetting the age here
It wouldnt be frowned on any less letting a three year old wander the streets, she WAS 3!!!!!!!!
Not 13, not 9, not even 6 but 3!!!
Had they left a 13 year old and two 12 year olds in the hotel room alone I for one would see this as being anywhere near as bad bar them leaving the place unlocked
Had they let her out in the street at 3 and she had been run over that would STILL be their fault, but again had she been 13, or even 9 it wouldnt have been so bad
Infact I dont even think leaving children alone in a totally foriegn country is anywhere near as forgiveable as leaving them at home where all other considerations are equal as at least there theres some chance of neighbours being vigilant whereas in a holiday resort the “nieghbours” will mostly be out having their friggin holiday and even if not wont exactly be keeping an eye out in the slightest
But add to this the fact the doors werent even locked AND that the complex offers a registered child minding service BECAUSE its totally illegal to leave kids under 14 alone there this really is unforgiveable
And I take exception to the ridiculous claims that “most parents” leave their kids alone at some point” lol, none that I know of have because IF they had I’d have remembered it because of ripping a strip off them for being so f’cking irresponsible
When I was with my ex apart from being in a different room they were NEVER left alone ever, if we HAD to go somewhere they came with us, if that wasnt feasible we didnt go END OF!
Other than that we had a babysitter, if we couldnt get one then again we didnt go out, simple as that
Kids arernt a trivial ornamental niceity to be discarded as and when they become an inconvenience, they are, or SHOULD be a primary concern, one that takes preceedence above all else. And if someone isnt prepared to treat them as such then they should have had a puppy instead
I also cant see the similarity in the car analogy either, did you realise theres supposed to be some similarity with analogous comparatives? :?
A better one would be them knowing the tyre was flat whilst at their local quickfit but deciding to not have it fixed because it would make them late for a party, on the way to which the same tyre blew out causing them to swerve onto the path killing a three year old little girl walking along the path
Then them saying “Oh well, we are conscientious car maintainers but we are just a little bit naive and didnt realise that driving on a bald tyre might be dangerous and irresponsible, but on the bright side the mother of the little girl still has two other kids so its not THAT bad really”
THATS an analogy that actually resembles this topic, yours seems to only have relevance to someone practising solvent abuse from where I’m sitting
@sailingal wrote:
A very close friend of our family, a very amazing and fantastic woman once said: ” As ladies we were superior, as women we are only equal”. She had a point there…….
WOW! :D
I think I might use that lol, she sounds like a very astute and above averagely insightful woman :)
Or how about “pandering child killer protectors and worshippers of the loonyverse unite lol
Why only “think”? You could have checked back just to be sure you know
Although, if your grasp of gender is so confuddlicated then perhaps reading back is too complex too eh? :lol:
Then again, you could have just been seeing bat twice after an extreme afternoon necking pints lol
Well a few points einstein
1) your post looks pretty much as long as the one youre responding too, ever heard of the word hypocrite? You really ought to look it up
3) wheres 2?? :shock: :o
2) PHEW!! There it is :lol:
4) if it was a wind up post possibly the only thing stupider than falling for it is suspecting its one and STILL falling for it :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Z) why would you reading a response be important or influence whether I write it or not? Do you deludedly think whether you will or wont read something I write is in the slightest bit more important than totally irrelevant? Delusions of adequacy or what :lol: :lol: :lol:
99) I would bet you spend and have spent more time on here than me, fab life you have lol
B) I COULD explain the reasoning behind that post but its blatantly obvious you wouldnt be able to grasp the concept anyway, and anyhoo, why the f*ck should I?
Your understanding, approval or agreement with a post isnt necessary, important, consequential, wanted or of any interest one way or another on any level whatsoever
Enjoy not reading that lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
