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I give up, you’ve lost it.
Yes of course. The medical establishment across the entire globe, including every single government and every single world-class scientist, are all lying, just because some plagiarizing pipsqueak conspiracy theorist online says so.😂
What conspiracy theory are you talking about?
I just described how vaccines work.
I prefer to get my information on Covid from professionals rather than some random online quack who isn’t qualified to comment and you are most definitely not qualified to comment.
I am more than qualified enough to know that these so called professionals are lying to you if they have said it works differently than how I have described.
First, there’s no “presumably” about it; the mRNA vaccines work. Second, the goal is to prevent severe disease from the infection by provoking an immune response and providing “immune memory”, so that the immune system, when encountering SARS-CoV-2 again, will be able to rapidly ramp up a response to shut the virus down before it can cause disease. That’s how all vaccines designed to prevent viral diseases work! There’s nothing special about the COVID-19 vaccines in that aspect…”
You were right when you said you were not qualified, this is completely wrong.
What I said isn’t a conspiracy theory, its common medical knowledge that has been understood for over a century, as well as being how Pfizer describe the function of their vaccine.
The immune system fights virus’ by producing antibodies, which are specific to each virus. The antibodies chemically bind with external features of a virus that are called antigens. These are usually some kind of protiens. When the antibodies bind it damages the virus and marks it as a foreign object that should be destroyed by B and T cells.
Traditional vaccines train the body how to produce antibodies by injecting a dead virus, that will still have a full set of antibodies that can be attacked, but is incapable of reproducing due to being damaged.
The mRNA vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna don’t do this, the mRNA is absorbed into your cells and instructs them to produce spike protiens similar to the ones that SARS-COV2 has. The spike protien is what the virus uses to trick cells into letting it enter so it can repoduce inside of them.
The main points of contention over this method are :
- If the covid spike protien works as an antigen
- How similar the spike protiens produced by the vaccines are to the real ones
- If having only one type of antibody is enough to grant immunity to covid
- How long the mRNA lasts in the body
The last one is different issue, which risks an immune cascade if there are top up vaccines every 6 months.
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This reply was modified 4 years, 2 months ago by draculina. Reason: Re-wrote for easier reading
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Draculina is rather difficult to pin down because she won’t reveal her original sources. Because she won’t reveal her sources it is hard to pin down where she plagiarizes her information from and therefore the full context of it. The pseudo-science this particular type of conspiracy theorist churns out is actually quite dangerous propaganda because vulnerable, uneducated, or ignorant people, etc may well be and are, deceived by it.
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On Sunday while getting me second dose they hand me a load of paper that I thru on the side once I got home and never looked at until today.
Lets answer a few running questions:
1. What COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca is and what it is used for
COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca is a vaccine used to protect people aged 18 years and older against COVID-19.
COVID-19 is caused by a virus called coronavirus (SARS CoV 2).
COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca stimulates the body’s natural defences (immune system). It causes the body to produce its own protection (antibodies) against the virus. This will help to protect you against COVID-19 in the future. None of the ingredients in this vaccine can cause COVID-19.
I actually belive that the AtraZeneca is the most effective out of the available vaccines, so this information may be correct.
I know exactly where you are steering the issue but even so. You still haven’t answered. Stop beating about the bush. Is the Covid vaccine a vaccine in your opinion and in your own words what does the Covid vaccine do?
To address Ge’s question.
I do no believe that the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines can be called vaccines.
They operate on a different principal that uses mRNA to instruct your cells to produce spike protiens similar to the ones that the SARS-Cov2 virus has. (Covid-19 is a disease caused by the SARS-Cov2 virus, like AIDS is a disease that is caused by the HIV virus). As far as I understand the body cannot produce antibodies in response to the spike protiens, but it can learn to recognise them as hostile which may result in a faster immune response if later infected with covid.
This does not provide immunity, and there are many confirmed cases of people catching covid after being vaccinated that would support this claim.
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Have you refused to have the vaccination Drac?
I can’t be vaccinated, as you already know.
How is this relevent?
Doa……Drac is very aware of the answers to her own questions…she is being her usual self and trying to make a point without trying to make a point
It’s a variation of the Socratic Method, as I have also told you before.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Yes, that definition is largely correct.
Now the question is if the covid vaccines have effects that match this definition or not.
Why don’t you explain and we can go from there.
Vaccines were first invented in the 19th century, where it was discovered that you could artificially create immunity to a virus by training the body to produce antibodies to that virus by injecting them with a dead or weakened sample of the virus.
This prevents the vaccininated person from being able to catch the virus, as their body destroys it faster than it can reproduce. This also has the side effect that a vaccinated person cannot transmit the virus, because they cannot be infected by it.
Vaccination as a condition of employment is grey area.
No, it isn’t.
It’s illegal to discriminate on this basis and it should always remain so.
