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Draculina is rather difficult to pin down because she won’t reveal her original sources. Because she won’t reveal her sources it is hard to pin down where she plagiarizes her information from and therefore the full context of it.

The pseudo-science this particular type of conspiracy theorist churns out is actually quite dangerous propaganda because vulnerable, uneducated, or ignorant people, etc may well be and are, deceived by it. Those groups are not making informed decisions based on all the available science and so are genuinely putting their own lives at risk.

I am not qualified to comment (neither is Draculina) but I found a site that can and who explain in understandable language why the ignorant quackery Draculina and co preach has no place in science.

The latest antivax false claim: mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 are not vaccines but “medical devices” or “gene therapy”

“Note, though, how Dr. Stoller, in his effort to portray mRNA vaccines as “therapy” (specifically a “gene therapy”), obfuscates by saying that the recombinant proteins made by the vaccines “presumably” will “stop, prevent or modulate the infection in question”. First, there’s no “presumably” about it; the mRNA vaccines work. Second, the goal is to prevent severe disease from the infection by provoking an immune response and providing “immune memory”, so that the immune system, when encountering SARS-CoV-2 again, will be able to rapidly ramp up a response to shut the virus down before it can cause disease. That’s how all vaccines designed to prevent viral diseases work! There’s nothing special about the COVID-19 vaccines in that aspect…”

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lindaclemenza7

Ge wrote:

First, there’s no “presumably” about it; the mRNA vaccines work. Second, the goal is to prevent severe disease from the infection by provoking an immune response and providing “immune memory”, so that the immune system, when encountering SARS-CoV-2 again, will be able to rapidly ramp up a response to shut the virus down before it can cause disease. That’s how all vaccines designed to prevent viral diseases work! There’s nothing special about the COVID-19 vaccines in that aspect…”

You were right when you said you were not qualified, this is completely wrong.

What I said isn’t a conspiracy theory, its common medical knowledge that has been understood for over a century, as well as being how Pfizer describe the function of their vaccine.

The immune system fights virus’ by producing antibodies, which are specific to each virus. The antibodies chemically bind with external features of a virus that are called antigens. These are usually some kind of protiens. When the antibodies bind it damages the virus and marks it as a foreign object that should be destroyed by B and T cells.

Traditional vaccines train the body how to produce antibodies by injecting a dead virus, that will still have a full set of antibodies that can be attacked, but is incapable of reproducing due to being damaged.

The mRNA vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna don’t do this, the mRNA is absorbed into your cells and instructs them to produce spike protiens similar to the ones that SARS-COV2 has. The spike protien is what the virus uses to trick cells into letting it enter so it can repoduce inside of them.

The main points of contention over this method are :

1. If the covid spike protien works as an antigen
2. How similar the spike protiens produced by the vaccines are to the real ones
3. If having only one type of antibody is enough to grant immunity to covid
4. How long the mRNA lasts in the body

The last one is different issue, which risks an immune cascade if there are top up vaccines every 6 months.
 

• This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by  draculina. Reason: Re-wrote for easier reading

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lindaclemenza7

Not refusal. Bottom line will it be effective and on whom. We all have different gene or DNA design. That what crazy. Can not find a quick fix for all of us. Now talking a booster by end of year. If you can not pin point the right one for a particular virus how we know it effective for all. These present vaccines in my opinion have in a great form slowed down spreading..how long? But in most part i think slowed down due to lock downs and distance formulas. More so. More hand washing.. cleanliness attack on germs carried in pubs. Restaurants. Transportation..trains. buses so forth. Let’s face it normally germs on many surfaces. Remember the sneezing with common colds and handshakes after. Germs carried……like with any bug u may have..pass to another. Or 48 bug should say.

It all much to grasp. I do know we need our officials of disease be solid on reporting and not so much controversary. Who u believe?

What makes me angry as a mother…

Still have not confirmed how got released and where? Why being tested or used..now this what over a year later. Come on..man cough up the snake and be transparent.