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22 August, 2006 at 11:23 pm #237331
Thats the spirit JB, have a laugh with it, its not serious :)
If we were created by “aliens”, then they’ll be the perfect people to stop wars.
That must be a good thing :)
22 August, 2006 at 11:19 pm #237124@sharongooner wrote:
i agree with have an open mind, but i dont agree with go by the dictionary!!
as a human race we are different and so should not be tarred with a title out of a book of words… we are so different. the rest of my post explained what i mean
But you speak the English dictionary language, how shouldn’t you be “tarred with a title out of a book of words”? Dont speak English then :D
22 August, 2006 at 11:14 pm #237123@pikey wrote:
It clearly is about dictionary definitions. I think the whole thing hinges on whether arachnids have opinions. Emma says they do, while I’m not so sure. See, I think that an arachnid doesn’t really have an opinion on leg moving or anything else. I think it is a much simpler organism than that. I believe it would have to be self-aware to have an opinion and I’m not sure the genus are. We’d have to ask an animal psychologist.
The subject of spiders is getting to me, urrhh (shudder). Does a dog, cat, elephant, human baby have an opinion? Hell, WE have an opinion…are we not bigoted of someone or something?
22 August, 2006 at 11:04 pm #237121@sharongooner wrote:
talking about spiders really undermines your posts em. i know what you are trying to do hun, but its not about dictionary definitions… its about human nature.
if you HATE spiders you HATE spiders and that is that.
Dictionary definitions define what we describe as human nature.
What does nature mean, ask the dictionary, you get me.
I think where some folk arnt getting it (and i DONT wana be patronising) is that “society” beats us with a verbal stick about “what” bigotry means (hatred of those the white liberals like), but were rarely if at all told or educated about other things it means.
Look at the subject and meanings of the words with a open mind.
22 August, 2006 at 10:56 pm #237327Yes theres that too JB.
Im looking at it with an open mind, and in that open mind, im asking these questions, who are we, where do we come from, how did we evolve?
In a spiritual sense, its worth observing.
In global warming contents, our planet has a natural cycle of becoming warm and bloody freezing (ice age). Were heading right now, for our natural warm period, maybe “there” coming for the climate :D
22 August, 2006 at 10:31 pm #237116@cath 55 wrote:
bigotry is a personal deliberate act…… its a dislike of anything that doesnt resemble ‘normal’ in their word fgs lol. fear of spiders etc is a totally different thing this is a phobia ,, bigotry has a totally different meaning to phobia lol
phobia is something a person cant readily control bigotry on the other hand i believe is something u can ……….
xxxHey Cath.
Bigotry means:
prejudice • noun 1 preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or experience. 2 unjust behaviour formed on such a basis. 3 chiefly Law harm that may result from some action or judgement.tolerant • adjective 1 showing tolerance. 2 able to endure specified conditions or treatment.
intolerant 2 unable endure specified conditions or treatment.Do you have a preconcieved opinion that is not based on reason or experience of spiders?
Are you unable endure specified conditions or treatment of spiders?
22 August, 2006 at 10:23 pm #237323Thats the way i think too slayer. I never said i believed him…
Being devil’s advocate in what you say, maybe, JUST maybe, people like Tim, know they cant provide evidence (if he indeed has it), because he would know that the US government would blow him up with dynamite…
Maybe he’s trying to enlighten the general public VIA the US government, slowly, so we gradually find out? Instead like you say, the fabric of society crumbles in panic.
22 August, 2006 at 10:05 pm #237114@tam1969 wrote:
ANY PERSON WHO DISLIKES ANY PERSON JUST BECAUSE OF THERE SEXUALITY IS A BIGGOT IN MY EYES AS AT THE END OF THE DAY I BELIEVE YOU ARE BORN WITH HOMOSEXUALITY,SO ANY ONE WHO DISCRIMANATES AGAINST ANY ONE JUST BECAUSE OF THERE GENDER IS A BIGGOT IN MY EYES……………..
TAM
Does it only mean to people of a sexual preference, or does it mean of a dislike of anything?
Are homosexuals bigoted for disliking hetrosexuals and bi-sexuals?
22 August, 2006 at 9:59 pm #237112@pikey wrote:
Emma, you yourself defined a bigot as a person who is prejudiced in their views and intolerant of the opinions of others. Not or, and. Therefore you can be unfairly prejudiced towards spiders, squashing those that mean you no harm, pulling the legs off others because you mistakenly think they deserve it etc., but you can’t be bigoted about it since arachnids don’t have opinions of their own to be intolerant of and, according to your definition, a bigot needs to be both prejudiced and intolerant of another set of views.
Hope this clears it up for you.
Do you not think that a spider has an opinion. How do they decide which leg to move first? Do they have an opinion of which to make decisions…
prejudice • noun 1 preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or experience. 2 unjust behaviour formed on such a basis. 3 chiefly Law harm that may result from some action or judgement.
A spider will catch their prey through a prejudiced view of another insect, in the form of a preconceived opinion that is not based on reason, with unjust behaviour formed on such a basis.If homophobia is bigotry, people who are scared of spiders are bigots. Its fact, English dictionary language FACT, the language WE ALL speak.
22 August, 2006 at 9:33 pm #237110@becky wrote:
Because its my opinion. Wrap anything up how you want it break it down with the Oxford dictionary. I dont need a dictionary to know being homophobic is bigotry! IN MY OPINION.
You do need a dictionary, because YOU speak the English dictionary language :roll:
And please point out where i said anyone had to believe my beliefs Emma go on PLEASE point it out???!!!!
Point out where is said you said that…
Why should anyone who doesn’t speak the English dictionary language, believe your alien language, because its your opinion. Ok, so you prefer to live in an isolationist world, all alone, by yourself.
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