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@stephen1 wrote:

Yes, you are right, that wasn’t a question; I should have said “different matter.” My apologies.:oops:

Being a pacifist doesn’t preclude you from commenting on war, violence or any other topic, but it does presuppose that you already believe that war is completely unnecessary. In that case, you would argue neither for a moral war, nor an amoral one. You posed an question whether war could be fought within a parameter of “rules,” but you didn’t add the caveat that you believe the answer to be an academic one; as you have already made up your mind as to the uselessness of it all anyway.

Stephen1

As a pacifist I can indeed posit the observation that rules within an aggressive confrontation are as farcical as war itself. In fact, having no literal axe to grind places me in a position to strengthen my argument that if war is stupid then waging war with a concept of engaging the enemy as one would an opposing cricket team, is stupider still.
Now bugger off and don’t annoy me, or if you must, then save it for tomorrow. I’m tired, my brain is fuddled and I’ve come on tonight simply to chill.

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As a pacifist I simply find the hypocrisy of arguing the concept of decent and respectful warfare, too ludicrous for words.

Quote:Stephen1
THIS is a different question than the one you initially proposed. Naturally, if you do not believe in war as a means to an end, then you will not agree on any kind of war.

Firstly, it isn’t a question, it’s a statement, and secondly the fact that I don’t believe in war as a means to an end, not only doesn’t preclude me from recognising the abdurdity of warfare by the rulebook, but re-enforces my supposition.

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@pete wrote:

Of course theres rules more so now than ever cause we need to be seen as not barbaric and there are limits to how far we SHOULD go to win

I’m minded of Spike Milligan’s remarks regarding the IRA, back in the seventies, when the British Government and media condemned the bombings and atrocities, and he argued that the IRA were at war with the Brits and therefore everyone and everything deemed ‘the enemy’ by the IRA militia, was fair game.
I agree with chickenman, no Queensbury rules. As a pacifist I simply find the hypocrisy of arguing the concept of decent and respectful warfare, too ludicrous for words. So I shall shut up now! :twisted:

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@chickenman wrote:

When it’s war you got to do whatever it takes. You cant have a war without people getting hurt or offended but that’s what the british government tries to do thats why Iraq has gone on for so long. We have got i situation where Battle Tanks have to pass emision tests so they dont polute the enviroment ffs.
As far as “War Crimes” go there is no such thing. There are no rules in battle the days of rolling your sleave’s up for a queensbury fistycuff are long gone. It’s kill or be killed thats the nature of war and if you don’t like it dont start one.

Yep!

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@pete wrote:

Is that a bloke or a woman [or bornfree?]

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@sunny wrote:

:shock: Essy are you me old man undercover he said neally word for word what you ahve just said to me lol

I no ya right love but i was so gutted i was 8 years fit free thats how i passed my test 18 months ago then had a very very very tiny fit last march time but decided to come clean and tell hubby and the doctor so here i am carnt drive for anouther 6 moths oh well has you say it will fly by xxxx thank you for your kind words now get ya kit off and come sit on me lap lol :wink:

I’ll gladly sit on yer lap, Sunny, but I’m keeping on me black lacey bra and me crotchless panties. :oops:

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@virgopeach wrote:

I love your dark hair, Esme, it’s beautiful.

This was me yesterday at work…

Thank you, Peachy, you’re looking bonnie yourself!

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@sunny wrote:

f00king gutted i really thought today i would be let back behind the wheel The scan was fine iv not had a fit in just under 6 months now but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Why f00king say 6 months when they new dam f00king well it would be 12 waste of a days pay at work waste of parking coasts at the hospital waste of my hubby coming out of work early to take me

Janurary i have to go back he said as long as i dont have a seizer between now and then he will wright to my insurance that day and pass me fit to drive

I understand your anger and frustration, Sunny, but they’re really looking out for your interests. My last occasion in hospital, I also started having seizures..I was gaga for three weeks..hallucinating..the full works on top of my original illness. The doctors told me it would take a year or so for my brain to get back to ‘normal’ and I do still get confused and muddled when stressed out.
So please calm down and just be thankful that your seizures are gone and the next six months will pass before you know it.
Meanwhile..take care of yourself.

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Uriah Heep – Lady in Black

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Find yourself a burglar. He’s the man with all the breaking and entering expertise..surely JC has at least one who’ll ‘fess up to this manner of employment. Try looking on the ‘Do you like your job’ thread.

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