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I was accused by Mr.Hugs & Kisses Esq. of being a troll, because I politely asked scep to not speak on my behalf and to “speak for himself”. This was 10 days ago on a thread called Deletion, Censorship and Martin
I thus challenged Mr. Hugs & Kisses Esq. to explain exactly how this one comment I made could be considered as trolling.
I didn’t get an answer.
Miraculously, the thread then, disappeared.
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You’re improving mooosey :)
Have you ever considered joining The Bar?
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Think of it like a rugby or football league table. You have 3 readings. Home, away, and the all important combined total. Some teams might be very strong at home and weak away. Or vice versa. Whether they are strong or weak at home or away isn’t really as important as their combined total points and league position at the end of the season.
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So…I’ve looked at it a bit. When you say alcohol is more harmful than drugs – are you talking about harm to others or harm to the user? I can only assume that as there has been mention of a couple of vodkas, we’re talking about harm to the ‘user’ or individual. The graph itself is clearly broken down in to those constituent parts. From what I can see, if you’re looking at most harmful to others (as per the legend on the graph) then yes, your statement true. However, if you’re talking about harm to the ‘user’ (see example above), I think any of the next 3 romp into the lead.
When you say alcohol is more harmful than drugs – are you talking about harm to others or harm to the user?
Hello unicorn and thanks for your question. I am actually talking about both, or neither. The graph has 3 readings. Harm to others in light blue, harm to users in dark blue, and the combined total of BOTH harm to others and harm to users giving a total harm ranking. So in this case the combined harm to others and the user for alcohol is easily highest.
Alcohol is untouchable in the harm it does to others. Double the value of heroin on the list in second place. This is why alcohol is ultimately number one on the list.
As you point out, alcohol is not as harmful as heroin to the user, but alcohol is more harmful to others, you and me, than heroin, crack and meths combined.
Mooosey’s chart is the same chart as mine except hers has more depth in the figures whereby my chart has simplified the figures into harm to user and others. The totals, the rankings are all the same, Alcohol on top with 72 pts and mushrooms on the bottom with 6 pts. The 2 charts are the same.
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“The authors point out that the model’s weightings, though based on judgment, were analysed and found to be stable as large changes would be needed to change the overall rankings.” Explain what that gobbledegook means, you posted it and therefore must know?
Still waiting. In your own time Alfie?
You’re calling it gobbledegook? does that mean you don’t understand it? I bet you will suddenly understand it now I give you an explanation.
The authors are saying that, after analysis, the findings in the graph are very stable, only large changes could make a difference in the rankings. As no large changes are expected there fore the findings are “found to be stable”
