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24 February, 2010 at 10:45 am #432384
Then lets legalise dog fighting cause guess what it’s natural for pitbulls to fight. Any foxes are killed because they are foxes and not because they are problem foxes, whatever method is used the fox is killed because it is there and it has to lose it’s life because it just might eat something we dont want it to eat
24 February, 2010 at 12:29 am #432377The hunt kills very few because it’s cheaper to shoot them than to own a horse and a pack of dogs costs far less, it is not natural to hunt with dogs. Fox numbers are still stable and are expected to remain stable. Death from disease although not nice is natural, we kill because we can and no one and nothing can stop of if its what we want to do. Control is an excuse, nothing more
24 February, 2010 at 12:16 am #431078Are you a shape shifting lizard ?
24 February, 2010 at 12:15 am #432374Cats have no choice they aren’t self aware they dont know better
Fox hunting with dogs accounted for around 6 – 10% of foxes killed annually. The majority are either shot (more than 200,000 annually) or are killed on the road.
recent figures
23 February, 2010 at 11:37 pm #432371We shoot far more than we hunt and i never said hunt saboteurs were effective or necessary, i’d imagine half of them are there just for the crack.
Dog packs hunt by tearing any larger animal apart, african wild dogs do, wolves do, a smaller prey would be swiftly dispatched simply because of the size difference.
How can a video be ridiculous, it’s documentary evidence where are the quick humane videos from the hunting fraternity ? They dont exist because it isn’t true that the fox dies painlessly and quickly, it isnt true that fox hunting with hounds controls fox numbers, it isnt true that foxes take huge numbers of lambs, it isnt true that thousands are out of work because of the ban. It’s a blood lust because they can because it makes them feel good the mighty hunters, which is why drag hunting isn’t an alternative for these people, they get to exercise the hound and ride the horses but there’s no blood and that just isnt on23 February, 2010 at 11:08 pm #432369Why would predation figures be out of date (DEFRA figures give similar values btw) and they’d grab the neck when ? They run alongside the fox till they reach the neck where a single dog gives it a shake and the fox is instantly dead ?
Not in any video i’ve ever seen or is that just unlucky ?
It’s illegal, i’m not debating anything its illegal its barbaric and it’s immoral. Tradition doesn’t make something right23 February, 2010 at 10:49 pm #432367The date of thje figures isnt relevant it was an official body not pro or anti hunt therefore figures are likely to have been more accurate.
Fox hunting isnt carried out to control numbers, the Isle of Wight didnt have any foxes until they were imported for the purpose of hunting. It’s cruel and its illegal and because some people think it should be repealed doesn’t mean it’s ok. Hounds do not nip the back of the foxes neck and quickly kill it, no dog hunts like that23 February, 2010 at 9:19 pm #430011@thin ice wrote:
@pete wrote:
How would you know you never leave forum 3
how would you know where i am unless your there watching
easy you dont post anywhere else halfwit… dyslexia my arse you’re just thick
23 February, 2010 at 9:18 pm #432365@thin ice wrote:
@pete wrote:
Yet no videos by hunters to prove what they say is true.. like the thousands of jobs would be lost… yeah 700-1000 people
think you will find that the country side alliance has provided lots and lots of facts regarding this
cus its on youtube dont mean to say its gospelWhat facts.. cause you say they have is even less likely to make it true… hunting does NOT make a damn bit of difference to fox populations, there are not thousands of jobs at risk and MAFF dont publish on you tube and they say fox predation is NOT serious
23 February, 2010 at 9:14 pm #432364@(f)politics? wrote:
An interesting article from an irish newspaper where hunting isnt banned yet.
Meanwhile, uncontrolled fox populations will mass slaughter chicken runs, simply for the fun of killing,
well that sentence is complete shyte utter bollocks.
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