Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
That democracy that you dismiss has been fought for by long generations of These Islands. Are you saying their sacrifices have been in vain?
How would a society function if people were able to opt out? Are you convinced that there are no bad eggs amongst us?
Brucie’s been a fixture of Saturday night telly for decades. I’d say, if anyone deserved a gong from the world of entertainment there’s no better candidate.
No. The state, the agreed apparatus of society, carries with it a monopoly of might. Theoretically, I can use it to stop much more powerful entities hassling me. If everyone was perfectly free, I’d be on my own. The law curbs freedom but, paradoxically, protects it with the same stroke.
As you so gallantly agree to be examined, as it were, do you think you should, and if so why should you, be able to exempt yourself from the law of a land?
Merry Chrimbo, (f). Don’t do anything I wouldn’t.
I wonder if Mr Gazlan is prepared to have his views examined in the way he seems to think it is reasonable to examine other people’s beliefs. I’m prepared to be David Frost.
@gazlan wrote:
Oh dear Mr Pikey, have they gotten to you as well ? Believe someone has put me in charge ?
Of what might i ask. In charge of my own free thinking mind yes !Now, i don’t want to carry on repeating myself here, i will repeat one last time ok.
My point initially was ~ There is not a single person here can tell me a legitimate way in retracting my state ownership while remaining on this patch of earth commonly known as England. There was no mention of wanting to breach the law, of course as i have mentioned, i am free to do as i please, naturally there will be consequences should i breach the law.
As far as the idiot using the skin colour as part of any point to be made other than a valid non derogatory point, he is a small minded fool, this is plain to see by the following remarks made by this creature.
“The Geordie” bloke you refer to may have what could be considered extreme views yes, however, you might like to explain yourself with your following point ~some of the people you have posted links to would quite happily see you deported or worse based purely on the colour of your bum.~
How on this earth do you justify such a point ?
Now i hope this has made things crystal clear, so far every point i have made in this thread has been a valid point, it has not, nor can be disproved under the criterion described.But your point was long ago agreed. You’re not completely free because perfect freedom would include the freedom to kill who you want, rape who you want and steal from who you want. That’d be a silly system. You are, however, free to challenge whatever you want or decide to leave. What’s the problem?
The Geordie bloke was clearly some sort of neo-nazi. It was your link. Don’t make me do anything as tawdry as finding the posts, I beg you, but he was exactly the sort of chap that would be grading the shade of a chap’s bum. You, with your arse-tone, living in Britain would be anathema. Despicable. But don’t expect me to take any of his other views with anything more than a pinch of salt.
I’m forced to agree with you, you four-eyed, deluded spaz.
Brucie should get one, though. I genuinely don’t understand why he hasn’t already. Did he make a joke about Queenie in his youth or something?
Blimey, Mr Gazlan, have you run out of reefer? You seem like the proverbial bull in a china shop just recently. You appear to believe that someone has put you in charge.
To get back to your main points, the law is the law. For obvious reasons already alluded to, you can’t have some people allowed to just opt out. It’s not fair. You may be a shining paragon that would do only good under such circumstances, and I do not disbelieve this for a moment, but not everyone is. The meek need protecting from the mighty. Lawmakers have long recognised this in every culture. If you don’t like a law, or the system that has evolved to create and manage the law, you generally have four options:
1) You can ignore it and take the consequences.
2) You can campaign to have it changed.
3) You can grumble but otherwise generally abide by it.
4) You can move somewhere else and begin the process again. That’s where the free bit comes in.As for the colour of your backside, I think it is germane. I’ve mentioned to you before, some of the people you have posted links to would quite happily see you deported or worse based purely on the colour of your bum. That Geordie bloke who lives in Germany was particularly terrifying.
Indeed. You were bred for humanity and sold to society. The only way you can withdraw from the contract is to move abroad and thus place yourself under a different jurisdiction.
This is reasonably sensible, though. Otherwise you could declare yourself independent and go around bothering people and being a generally bad egg all the time. Further, there are systems that operate that you benefit from simply by being under a jurisdiction. Defence, for example. There are people and machines that stand ready to try and stop any foreigners dropping nasty bangy things on your parsnips. Even if you declared you wanted nothing to do with the state, there would be no practical way of ensuring that you didn’t partake of the benefit.
A wise chap once said that no man is an island. Even if we grow all our own grub, who knits our jumpers and cobbles our shoes? Who refines the selenium to make our difference engines work properly? We can’t live without interacting with wider society, so why should we be able to exempt ourselves from society’s agreed rules?
