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@Smiley wrote:

I agree that each woman has the right to choice. So if she wants to have an abortion – it’s her body, it’s her baby, if she wants to abort then it’s her right to do so; whether we disagree with it or not.

Well in that case, if its her body and HER baby and therefore totally HER decision we really ought to then give blokes the right…[Read more]

“there would not be any slutty women if those slutty men did’nt have sex with them ”

Ac tually thats nonsense really, if no women were slutty then the men whether slutty or not woldnt HAVE anyone to have sex with, well not human females at least lol

And as the alleged format is man chases woman >> woman DECIDES whether to give it up or not then…[Read more]

People who cling to the delusion of specific isolated narrow spectrum information or experience as having worth also deal in specifics

Someone being burgled as a for instance will have been through many of the same thoughts and feelings as someone who has been raped, but people speaking from a closed perspective will want to claim to be an expert…[Read more]

I suppose you then have to quantify what “knowledge” is tho

A muslim taught by a fanatic will claim to have knowledge, but an alleged moderate muslim will disagree and claim THEY have knowledge

Someone who is an expert in the field of planetary climate will claim to have decades of irrefuteable proof about how our climate works and what affects…[Read more]

Still not following

Demographics show that people dont stop having abortions just because they arent available, nearly half the abortions carried out in the world are done by people in countries where they arent legal or allowed

So restricting them wouldnt limit the amount of pregnancies, it would just divert the abortions elsewhere or mean more…[Read more]

As I said earlier the ONLY thing that can be responded to is whats written

So if “My concern was people using unrestricted abortions as a method of birth control, not one abortion but many per person and many people using it, therefore, causing the health system additional services that it does not need”

Isnt saying that them NOT having…[Read more]

Well if you didnt make a mistake rather than just claiming that why not actually show why you didnt?

You could start by showing how an NHS with limited funds wouldnt be “drained” of resources by “burdens” upon those resources as thats the only way you could show the two arent one and the same

Then you could go on to show how it would be less of…[Read more]

Slutty parents are a separate issue to most other kinds of parents

Firstly they will only be parents in many cases BECAUSE they are slutty rather than their brood being planned

But, they are, or at least SHOULD be a national institution and should be protected like any other

Someone wanting to pursue a slutty lifestyle should have access to…[Read more]

Awww bless, you could have simply admitted your mistake instead of even more childish sidestepping hehe

That sort of response might go down well with eight year olds when discussing the existence of santa or the tooth fairy,but it makes you look like an idiot using it on a sight for “alleged” grown ups on a discussion board petal

The old “damn,…[Read more]

LOL, if you stopped them having abortions they would have 23 kids duh, 23 massive burdens on the health service as opposed to 3 massive drains and 20 quite minor blips

And 23 kids would

And back to the semantics, the burden on the NHS makes their limited resources become empty, hence the reason many NHS trusts are bankrupt or have to restrict…[Read more]

On the topic of multiple abortions per person btw, black women top the charts on that one with asian women being the lowest amount

But they are only ever recorded as having had a “previous” abortion which isnt cross referenced to their age, reasons, amount of prior abortions or timescales between them

That is then used to “conclude” things that…[Read more]

Some facts on the matter to offset the media driven hysteria lol

UK
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http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publicationsandstatistics/Publications/PublicationsStatistics/DH_075697

Key facts
In 2006, for women resident in England and Wales:

the total number of abortions was 193,700, compared with 186,400 in 2005, a rise of 3.9%
the age-standardised abortion…[Read more]

Picking up on your new sidestep/smokescreen for a moment tho

“My concern was people using unrestricted abortions as a method of birth control, not one abortion but many per person and many people using it, therefore, causing the health system additional services that it does not need”

It doesnt matter WHO you are talking about

Even looking at…[Read more]

Thats semantics and you know it, a burden, drain, encumberment all mean the same thing which is EXTRA work, cost and time taken up

So my point still stands UNLESS you can show how all the other things I mentioned if an unwanted child ISNT aborted are LESS of a drain, burden or encumberment on the health service compared to each abortion in terms…[Read more]

And yet according to government literature vegetables are SUPPOSED to be GOOD for your health

Go figure :?

See, in principle I agree “something” should be in place, but as with marriage or whatever the gay variant is called there should be some registration of it otherwise why on earth should it be recognised anyway?

But the law as it is was created in a time when people married quite young usually moving out from their parents homes for the first…[Read more]

Fairysnuff then

So lets place that into a real life situation for a second to add some rarely examined perspective and balance

Lets suppose youre down the pub with a mate talking about sky tv, when drunk you say you wouldnt mind watching an upcoming film, the next day someone turns up to install sky with the film channels all turned on

You…[Read more]

Whats always quite comical when this topic gets “discussed” for want of a better word is the absolute lack of any mention of the rights of a father

How come mens rights pretty much ONLY seem to be relevant when the right to pay for a child is being discussed?

And then people seem surprised when fathers actually act like an irrelevant and…[Read more]

I’m totally shocked

REALLY shocked I am

He was a COMEDIAN? He was about as funny as having a tonsolectomy performed via your anus without any anaesthetic

I think I am going to grieve his passing tho now…….

OOPS, nope, it was just a burp :lol: :lol: my mistake :D

OMG I cant believe someone wheeled out the “its a drain on the health serivice” twaddle lol

Some people will sink to any level to try and fashion what they think is a reasonable arguement out of total manure :D:D:D

How much of a “drain” will the non aborted little foetus be on the NHS for the following 9 months? How much of a drain on the…[Read more]