Coalition …

sceptical guy wrote:

With Labour in the lead by 6 points in the latest opinion polling (for what that’s worth), I don’t see another election as a way out of the mess that May has got her govt. and her country into. We’ve wasted months of essential brexit negotiating time in party manoeuvring and electioneering, and we’re about to waste more time in a crisis over who is to be PM. Hold another election, and you could end up in the same mess. Worse, from the Tory point of view, you could end up with a Labour government of some kind. great as far as I’m concerned, but if I were a Tory I would be very nervous about calling another election. Even if you were ahead in the polls when you called it (May had a twenty point lead!), you may well not be by the end. The sacking of those two aides is the writing on the wall. May relied exclusively on them for advice. The three of them were as thick as thieves. When Tory MPs called on may yesterday and told them that her leadership would be challenged next week unless she sacked the two of them, that was it. She’s not running anything now – she’s being run, and hot for long.

I think the validity of any poll has been long since shot down in flames.. the polls suggested a tory landslide a few weeks ago, a trump defeat, a remain vote in the EU- they haven’t a clue and are simply guessing pulling extrapolated figures from  misleading data.

TheNorfolkMafia wrote:

sceptical guy wrote:

With Labour in the lead by 6 points in the latest opinion polling (for what that’s worth), I don’t see another election as a way out of the mess that May has got her govt. and her country into. We’ve wasted months of essential brexit negotiating time in party manoeuvring and electioneering, and we’re about to waste more time in a crisis over who is to be PM. Hold another election, and you could end up in the same mess. Worse, from the Tory point of view, you could end up with a Labour government of some kind. great as far as I’m concerned, but if I were a Tory I would be very nervous about calling another election. Even if you were ahead in the polls when you called it (May had a twenty point lead!), you may well not be by the end. The sacking of those two aides is the writing on the wall. May relied exclusively on them for advice. The three of them were as thick as thieves. When Tory MPs called on may yesterday and told them that her leadership would be challenged next week unless she sacked the two of them, that was it. She’s not running anything now – she’s being run, and hot for long.

I think the validity of any poll has been long since shot down in flames.. the polls suggested a tory landslide a few weeks ago, a trump defeat, a remain vote in the EU- they haven’t a clue and are simply guessing pulling extrapolated figures from misleading data.

Norfolk,

that’s my point.

You can’t trust polls any more, and if you’re going to call an election that will be another couple of months of uncertainty. The clock is ticking on the Brexit negotiations

It just is not as “simple” polls were not accurate prior to the election and so therefore they can’t be trusted. Corbyn had been subjected to a savage, unprecedented, two year onslaught by not only the right wing media, also the liberal media and also from the liberal PLP within his own party. Once the election started and under the election rules, where coverage was more balanced and less biased, obviously Corbyn was going to gain popularity and labour move up in the polls. The polling system in the UK is not as independent as claimed and there are numerous reasons why they are accurate, or not.

• This reply was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by  Ge.

This morning I watched a short report on abortion in Northern Ireland, apparently it’s still against the law to have an abortion in just about any circumstances, even for women who have been victims of incest, rape or are carrying a foetus with a fatal foetal abnormality.

The laws making any of these abortions illegal carry the full backing of the DUP, if the people of Nothrrn Ireland want to vote for a party with these beliefs then that is up to them but for the Tories to jump into bed with the DUP it shows what a straw clutching scum bag Theresa May is. 

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sceptical guy, Sairs73

Reason:
Forgive my ignorance as I do not understand fully about these parties nor very familiar with the leaders you all some times discuss.

But I do see from reading the comments a similar pattern for UK/US that when politics and votes come up “Abortion” has a great deal of impact or sway if you will on final voting factor. I see this often with our own poll process and concentration with Presidents here in the states.