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7 March, 2010 at 5:39 pm #431175
@pete wrote:
Combining two things that Einstein didnt combine, thats a little presumptious of the author of that article isn’t it. And the salient word is believed. There is no proof either way
Whether they are combined or not Pete. It still seems pretty clear what he was saying. Here’s another quote from Einstein’s last latter which certainly seems a bit clearer.
“The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”
7 March, 2010 at 5:50 pm #431176In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)
7 March, 2010 at 6:04 pm #431177“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”
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7 March, 2010 at 6:08 pm #431178Ah well that proves it beyond doubt eh ?
7 March, 2010 at 6:09 pm #431179@pete wrote:
Ah well that proves it beyond doubt eh ?
I would have thought so. :wink: Unless you can come with another quote?
7 March, 2010 at 6:12 pm #431180I could come up with loads i expect which would still not PROVE either belief
7 March, 2010 at 6:22 pm #431181@pete wrote:
I could come up with loads i expect which would still not PROVE either belief
Dunno how else I could prove it Pete. I quoted the guy actually saying he was an athiest word for word, saying that religion is for the weak minded, and saying that he wasnt a great fan of the Bible.
I really dont think he would even fit as a deist, but some of his quotes do seem to be contradictory.7 March, 2010 at 6:30 pm #431182None of this debate has proved or disproved either belief at this moment it is down to individual faith and faith can move mountains supposedly
7 March, 2010 at 6:40 pm #431183@pete wrote:
None of this debate has proved or disproved either belief at this moment it is down to individual faith and faith can move mountains supposedly
Well one belief cannot be disproven simply because of the nature of it. The burden of proof is always on the person making the claim.
7 March, 2010 at 6:42 pm #431184Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God? -
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