24 April, 2018 at 10:32 am #1093868
We have seen it all before haven’t we?
Truly evil men who have no love or care in their hearts who murder children without any conscience.
Maxine Ann Carr – covered up for Ian Huntley
Myra Hindly – even went along and joined in murdering children with Ian Brady
Rose West – not only allowed her partner to murder rape kill torture women and children she joined in and got off on it with him.
These evil men manipulate and control and because these women are so scared of what they will do to them they not only covered up what these men are doing they actually participate and are thinking to themselves ‘thank fuck its not me they are doing this to’ and each time the evil men ‘ruin’ other people at least its not them.
These men target women who are ‘vulnerable’ and have issues in order to manipulate control and have a ‘partner in crime’ telling them that they are ‘special’ and that they are ‘different’ and although they may kill everyone else, they wont kill you because you are ‘loved’ – ya know just as long as you play along with whatever they are doing because it could always be you next being buried under their patio. And don’t think for one tiny second that their punishment of you will be any kinder than what they have already dished out to others. No lol YOUR punishment will be far worse just for the very fact you had the cheek to even try to break free.
So what choice do these women have?
Well its easy and quite simple isn’t it.
They either go along with it and keep saying ‘thank fuck its not me’ or they say ‘ok it is me, I am the target and I will sacrifice myself so no one else gets hurt’.
What are your views on this?
(Mizzys days are numbered btw)24 April, 2018 at 11:02 am #1093869
Perhaps it was fred west that came under rose wests control. That is what its all about control. There’s no excuse for killing people. What happens is that people usually come to the end of there tether before things get out of control, and someone is seriously hurt.
Unfortunately I was reading about a young lad, his girlfriend is doing big time in prison because she nearly killed him. Starved, stabbed, and brutally abused him. You just don’t know until you have been there how it goes.
1 member liked this post.24 April, 2018 at 11:46 am #1093872
Profile of the Sociopath
- Glibness and Superficial Charm
- Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
- Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
- Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
- Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
- Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
- Incapacity for Love
- Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
- Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
- Poor Behavioural Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
- Early Behaviour Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
- Promiscuous Sexual Behaviour/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
- Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
- Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
Remind you of anyone ?
24 April, 2018 at 2:24 pm #1093883
- This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by mooosey88.
Who were you thinking of Lol
Seems to be a few of them here.24 April, 2018 at 3:08 pm #109388424 April, 2018 at 3:38 pm #1093885
Rose West – not only allowed her partner to murder rape kill torture women and children she joined in and got off on it with him. – i seen a tv doc about them 2 murders, tbh i thought it was rose west who was the boss of him he was the gimp, also fred did hit his head so that obv cud of made him bad.
also obv there is evil women in the world to, i know some women who threatens and lies to get what she wants, that is someone i know in person.
also in relations to killing, i dont have pity and wud not save the life of a bad person, and actually we dont seem to have the law on are side, i or my friend or anyone cud defend there self but accidently kill the person, yet they get seen bad and get put in prison, but if they dont defend there self or and there friend or partner etc, then they cud be seriously injured or and killed.
also i seen a thing i did not like some women got a abused physically and or mentally by her ex partner, so one day she got angry with him for being like that to her or and she was scared but felt she needed to do something about it, so one day she did she hit him with something, and it killed him, yet some idiot person was saying she is the bad person bs!, she got pushed to her limit with some bad person what is wrong.
also i seen a thing where this person got bullied for being a different skin color, so anyway it made him have hatred for people who are oppisite to his skin color, so he killed them.
bad men or and bad women are either born or and made bad, every case is different, and from the amount of serial killer doc i have seen, it seems most of them became bad as peopel treated them bad or they felt they did not fit in with others.
24 April, 2018 at 3:50 pm #1093887
- This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by JUSTNOTHING.
also some things i know aswell supposly – sociopaths or and psychopaths have these elements –
24 April, 2018 at 4:18 pm #1093888
- they are populer
- they dont have pity for whoever
- they like to controll
- they lie
- they are greedy
- they are cocky
Yes Just you are quite right, Rose West was a crap example.
I think the bump to the head you refer to is commonly known to be a factor with people who give others a good murdering.
‘There is no other part of the brain where lesions can cause such a wide variety of symptoms (Kolb & Wishaw, 1990). The frontal lobes are involved in motor function, problem solving, spontaneity, memory, language, initiation, judgement, impulse control, and social and sexual behaviour’.
I’ve also watched many documentaries on this subject and you are quite right in what you say that people who have had a really crappy childhood often become anaesthetized to abuse and have no remorse or guilt if they hurt other people. They just want to get their jollies and if you don’t give it to them they will f*** you right up the backside without any lube then murder you and leave you in a field for the birds and maggots.
But if we were to murder them back we would become just as they are, and two wrongs will never ever make a right.
We just need to try harder to not be murdered or to become a murderers accomplice.
24 April, 2018 at 5:42 pm #1093890
- This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by Sairs73.
tbh, i dont think someone who is bad, being hurt or and even killed by someone they hurt, is related to the saying – (2 wrongs dont make a right) – as i only see one wrong there, that is the person who hurt the person, if someone robs something from someone, should the victem be seen as bad if they robbed them back, it is called revenge, every action has a = or and oppisite reaction, it is like if someone defend there self if they are trolled, how can the person who defend there self be the bad person also, i see that context as – just 1 wrong not 2 wrongs.
24 April, 2018 at 5:52 pm #1093892
- This reply was modified 3 months, 3 weeks ago by JUSTNOTHING.
Interesting topic sairs. Thank you.
I will only tell u what have been told personally and have seen from perspective of vulnerable woman whom sadly I deal with…
First u are right that the term “love” applied is the one most vulnerable hold on to.
Most of these woman have come from broken homes where love, hugs, kisses not shared. As children abused, misguided left alone to defend for one self.
First to meet who provide affection, support, love, kind words, embrass them in their fold those vulnerable.
Most I have seen make sure a baby or two comes along as well. This puts them in a lock so to speak. When woman wake up, want to run, children in picture difficult…
Also lack of family support, education, work ethics and so forth are many factors why woman stay….
As for men u would think as well, wow abused by a woman! This gender always applied as the stronger gender not the weaker of the two. But sadly some men have had same upbringing, and therefore love of a woman essential. Sadly woman can in these cases control as they are the stronger element. But it is my opinion no matter what, men most often are told you must treat a woman with love and kindness. This in turn makes the man feel more challenged, weaker, accepts the abuse..
As far as killing either genders, usually a disorder an influence if it substance abuse, mental issues and so forth. These extra contributors intense the violent behavior..coupling the two can be very dangerous, get out of control.
Sadly the ones who truly suffer are the young children whom are exposed at an early age to violence. They grow up in surroundings in which older life, young life exposure may make them as an abuser as well.
It is important to get those at a very early age exposed, rechanneled so they don’t grow up same…