Heroes

As i said it should be a temporary help/aid for times when they have no way of supporting themselves, so everyone may not be able to support themselves always due to employment circumstances but for many they think it is a way of life and their right to just claim benefits and not actually try and obtain work, benefits should be help/aid for the basics only, not to fund a lazy comfortable lifestyle

@(f)politics? wrote:

As for involving god into the arguement, god set to work and created, he placed adam into the garden of eden to tend the garden, he made adam, he was created to fill several vocations he was a worker, it is part of his creation for humanity. he wants us to work and work with integrity, this in my opinion is how i interpret gods or the bibles choice for us.

And where does usury fit into your sense of biblical thinking ?

@gazlan wrote:

Well given we do not know the circumstances of these claimants then i stick by what i say. If they qualify within the law and legislation, you or any other has any right in deciding what they choose to spend their money on.
At this time of year many single parents will happily go without themselves to create a happy festive time for their children, do these parents fall under the remit of your description ? Many will also fall victim to the ” loan sharks ” that prey on such unfortunates, creating debt for themselves. And these loan sharks able to carry out their transactions perfectly within the co~ckeyed laws that these legislators create.
Best not to judge when not in command of all the facts i would suggest.

i am not talking abt one offs where a single parent may starve for 1 week to give something to their child, i am talking in general and going from the link that was pasted and these ppl seem to be able to regularly do this which for me says they are getting too much from the benefits system. And the fact Harman can call them heroes is ridiculous which was the whole point of this thread its not heroic at all. Although i get what ur saying and admire those that would do almost anything to feed their own but it shouldnt be from the purses of others, there is nothing godly or heroic abt that.

@(f)politics? wrote:

i am not talking abt one offs where a single parent may starve for 1 week to give something to their child, i am talking in general and going from the link that was pasted and these ppl seem to be able to regularly do this which for me says they are getting too much from the benefits system. And the fact Harman can call them heroes is ridiculous which was the whole point of this thread its not heroic at all. Although i get what ur saying and admire those that would do almost anything to feed their own but it shouldnt be from the purses of others, there is nothing godly or heroic abt that.

And that is a matter for ones own conscience and attitude don’t you think?