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My late mother suffered from schizophrenia. It was certainly no laughing matter for her, me or my family. To mock such ppl is incredibly insensitive. She died a tortured soul and was robbed of many years of having a happy life to a horrible illness.
@panda12 wrote:
My late mother suffered from schizophrenia. It was certainly no laughing matter for her, me or my family. To mock such ppl is incredibly insensitive. She died a tortured soul and was robbed of many years of having a happy life to a horrible illness.
The holocaust was no laughing matter.
I had an in-law who was very dear to me who lived in Warsaw in disguise for much nof the Nazi Occupation. Her family weren’tso lucky – her dad and mam, her borthers and sisters ended in the ovens.
Nazi jokes about the holocaust make me sick.
Lenny Bruce’s humour makes me laugh.
So do his jokes about child abuse, or the death of loved ones.
Mocking is one form of humour, a form which is characterisitc in a mild way of people on these boards.
But humour is protean. More than one response to horror.
And for those who have had to deal with mental illness, sometimes the humour is both cruel and cutting. Never mocking of the illness.
@sceptical guy wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
My late mother suffered from schizophrenia. It was certainly no laughing matter for her, me or my family. To mock such ppl is incredibly insensitive. She died a tortured soul and was robbed of many years of having a happy life to a horrible illness.
The holocaust was no laughing matter.
I had an in-law who was very dear to me who lived in Warsaw in disguise for much nof the Nazi Occupation. Her family weren’tso lucky – her dad and mam, her borthers and sisters ended in the ovens.
Nazi jokes about the holocaust make me sick.
Lenny Bruce’s humour makes me laugh.
So do his jokes about child abuse, or the death of loved ones.
Mocking is one form of humour, a form which is characterisitc in a mild way of people on these boards.
But humour is protean. More than one response to horror.
And for those who have had to deal with mental illness, sometimes the humour is both cruel and cutting. Never mocking of the illness.
ok, I take that back about Jen_Jen, but I am sure she will. However, you have contradicted yourself! :roll:
contradict myself?
It happens..explain?
I DUNNO? im in two minds about this thread.
@rogue trader wrote:
I DUNNO? im in two minds about this thread.
me too!!!!
oh dear..do you reckon I could get banned???!!
The stupid dopes are idiotic enough to censor the name of a writer like Philip K Richard, just as Lenny Bruce was prosecuted by the courts, so maybe I will!!!
Help! mummy!!!
Hi Scep, I found Lenny Bruce too much the first time I heard him, avoided listening to him after that because I didn’t want to support something that might be harmful, not merely embarrassing. I’m a bit more sophisticated now, I can wear polo necked jumpers and adopt an ironic smirk as well as the next man. But I still don’t find him funny.
I do find him shocking and I think there’s a context for shock tactics, for exposing something to the public gaze and reminding people so it doesn’t happen again. I think Lenny Bruce achieved that for his audience.
I’m not sure that the use of inappropriate terms achieves that per se, unless it’s done with supreme skill and fits its context well. So I’m not sure many of his claimed successors achieve it either.
Shock delivers trauma, if trauma heals well the result can be positive, if trauma heals badly the result can be far worse than before.
I don’t mean inappropriate because of some rule that says “you can’t say that no more”, but more in the sense of inaccurate, unhelpful or damaging – especially when a better alternative is available. The usage of “schizophrenic” and its derivatives had become at best misleading. A resurgence wouldn’t help. “Bi-polar” might be boring, but someone who has a bipolar condition is not in that state to amuse, excite me or interest me. I don’t believe I possess the skill of Lenny Bruce, so I’ll leave the term alone and if it dies out, I won’t miss it.
@sceptical guy wrote:
oh dear..do you reckon I could get banned???!!
The stupid dopes are idiotic enough to censor the name of a writer like Philip K Richard, just as Lenny Bruce was prosecuted by the courts, so maybe I will!!!
Help! mummy!!!
Hail to scep! The new Lenny . . . . . . . .
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