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27 October, 2012 at 10:31 am #19342
She’s gotten to mysterious devotions
She’s gotten to the zodiac and Zen
She’s gotten into tarot cards and potions
She’s laying her religion on her friends
On her friends, on her friendsFriends who come to ask her for their future
Friends who come to find they can’t be friends
Because of signs and seasons that don’t suit her
She’ll prophesy your death, she won’t say when
Won’t say when, won’t say whenI would like to start by saying that I ama totally rational, common sense regular bloke who laughs at all this silly female stuff, haha lolol
right..now down to the nitty gritty…
which do you prefer, Tarot, I Ching, or…??? all suggestions welcome.
The tarot scares me. Have had several packs, inlcludng a creepy medieval one, but had to give them up as they were forecasting freakouts – like the woman in the Joni Mitchell song, Roses Blue, quoted above –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqDabQGfGc
I once went to a guy in Hendon who was startlingly accurate, but generally I keep away from them. Apart from the freakouts, they are fatalistic – you tend to just be passive in the face of the future and I don’t think that’s a good idea.
I prefer the I Ching. Apart from often being startlingly accurate, I use them in a particular way. I use them when I have a genuine dielemma, and I use them not to predict the future but to sort out the choices facing me – I find they clarify a mind which can get jumbled when faced with dilemmas – I don’t let them decide what to do, consciously fight against that. But they clarify a situation, allow me to walk it off and work out what I think is the best way forward. I stlll make mistakes, but the Ching is great because of that quality.
Take care to avoid their predictive power, though.
I’m just joking about all this of course folks, hey what do you think I am, someone from the Dark Ages of witches and hobgoblins?? haha lololol as danny would say when he’s not expressing his opinion on how to hurt peeps poorer than he is, but
anyone got any good alternatives???
27 October, 2012 at 11:40 am #513571Oracle cards, tarot, I Ching, crystal balls, pendulums and so on…they are merely tools for tuning in to our own intuition. It doesn’t matter which you use really, it’s simply a matter of finding the right tool for you.
Tarot never really flowed for me, when I doing a reading I tend to work with the angel cards. I did once hold a crystal ball, humouring a friend, dismissing it, saying I couldn’t see anything…then went “into the zone” and found myself talking away. At the end I looked up and said “sorry, that was a load of cr@p wasn’t it?” only to realise that everyone was looking at me with their mouths open and one lady saying “no it wasn’t, it was spot on, thank you.”
I think as long as you don’t live your life by them (and I have seen people go into a decision paralysis and unable to move on until they’d had a reading) and take them as guidance only (or sheer entertainment!) then there’s no harm done.
27 October, 2012 at 12:09 pm #513572I have a friend who insists she is just talking rubbish but her party trick is telling fortunes…. Ive see punters form a queue round the pub for her to tell them their fortunes and are aghast at her accuracy… she insists its all rubbish :shock:
First time she did it we were on a girls night out, we were all a bit bored so she tapped a guy on the shoulder and said she felt she had to tell him his fortune…. we were all in stitches… but after she had done her stuff he was convinced she was for real and in his words she was…. “spot on”
We stay out of that pub now…… the queues get too long :D :D :D
27 October, 2012 at 10:12 pm #513573@sceptical guy wrote:
She’s gotten to mysterious devotions
She’s gotten to the zodiac and Zen
She’s gotten into tarot cards and potions
She’s laying her religion on her friends
On her friends, on her friendsFriends who come to ask her for their future
Friends who come to find they can’t be friends
Because of signs and seasons that don’t suit her
She’ll prophesy your death, she won’t say when
Won’t say when, won’t say whenI would like to start by saying that I ama totally rational, common sense regular bloke who laughs at all this silly female stuff, haha lolol
right..now down to the nitty gritty…
which do you prefer, Tarot, I Ching, or…??? all suggestions welcome.
The tarot scares me. Have had several packs, inlcludng a creepy medieval one, but had to give them up as they were forecasting freakouts – like the woman in the Joni Mitchell song, Roses Blue, quoted above –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOqDabQGfGc
I once went to a guy in Hendon who was startlingly accurate, but generally I keep away from them. Apart from the freakouts, they are fatalistic – you tend to just be passive in the face of the future and I don’t think that’s a good idea.
I prefer the I Ching. Apart from often being startlingly accurate, I use them in a particular way. I use them when I have a genuine dielemma, and I use them not to predict the future but to sort out the choices facing me – I find they clarify a mind which can get jumbled when faced with dilemmas – I don’t let them decide what to do, consciously fight against that. But they clarify a situation, allow me to walk it off and work out what I think is the best way forward. I stlll make mistakes, but the Ching is great because of that quality.
Take care to avoid their predictive power, though.
I’m just joking about all this of course folks, hey what do you think I am, someone from the Dark Ages of witches and hobgoblins?? haha lololol as danny would say when he’s not expressing his opinion on how to hurt peeps poorer than he is, but
anyone got any good alternatives???
Oh F*** Scep me old mate.
I’ll read that again when I am sober cos it’s making my head spin.
Happy Saturday.
“A design for life” – The Manic Street Preachers. Class.
:lol:
29 October, 2012 at 11:18 pm #513574@jen_jen wrote:
Oracle cards, tarot, I Ching, crystal balls, pendulums and so on…they are merely tools for tuning in to our own intuition. It doesn’t matter which you use really, it’s simply a matter of finding the right tool for you.
Tarot never really flowed for me, when I doing a reading I tend to work with the angel cards. I did once hold a crystal ball, humouring a friend, dismissing it, saying I couldn’t see anything…then went “into the zone” and found myself talking away. At the end I looked up and said “sorry, that was a load of cr@p wasn’t it?” only to realise that everyone was looking at me with their mouths open and one lady saying “no it wasn’t, it was spot on, thank you.”
I think as long as you don’t live your life by them (and I have seen people go into a decision paralysis and unable to move on until they’d had a reading) and take them as guidance only (or sheer entertainment!) then there’s no harm done.
so, Jen, are you able to explain what this zone was, what it felt like to be in it??
the tarot guy I saw in Hendon many moons ago was astonishingly accurate. He foretold things from his strange pack which he cd not have known, and he was right.
I was so impressed, I went back a year later, but the second time he wasn’t any good. I din’t know why.
29 October, 2012 at 11:30 pm #513575a great female friend of mine bought me Tarot cards years ago as she ” knows ” i have a certain somethng !! eek..
30 October, 2012 at 10:12 am #513576@sceptical guy wrote:
so, Jen, are you able to explain what this zone was, what it felt like to be in it??
the tarot guy I saw in Hendon many moons ago was astonishingly accurate. He foretold things from his strange pack which he cd not have known, and he was right.
I was so impressed, I went back a year later, but the second time he wasn’t any good. I din’t know why.
Oh lord, how do you explain “the zone”. I guess in some ways it’s not dissimilar to an athlete who is in the zone…there’s just you and the thing you are focusing on (crystal ball, tarot cards, a point in the middle distance, whatever), everything around you fades out to background crackle then what happens next depends on your way of experiencing. A clairvoyant will see things, a clairaudient will hear things, a clairsentient will sense things, a claircognisant will know things. You become a channel, sometimes barely aware of what you are saying, and often with little recollection afterwards other than thinking you’ve been talking a load of waffle…I often apologise to people for spouting rubbish only for them to say no, it all meant something to me – and that’s what matters, it can mean diddly squat to the reader but what’s important is that it resonates with the recipient.
Your guy in Hendon might have been having an off day when you went to see him the second time, or maybe you didn’t have any expectations of your first visit so you were easier to impress but then had higher expectations on your second visit so were more likely to be disappointed.
30 October, 2012 at 12:12 pm #513577this thread is really interesting reading :D
30 October, 2012 at 1:40 pm #513578thanks Jen – interesting on what you call ‘the zone’ (reminds me of the Tarkovsky movie, Stalker, where teh Zone is declared off limits by the government, yet stalkers take people there; in the Zone their deepest, most heart-felt desire is met, though it’s not always what they expect).
Your thoughts on the Hendon guy make sense. I did have higher expectations the second time, though his insights the first time were pretty amazing. I saw the pictures on the cards as he laid them out and read them that first time, and he was following those cards petty well. Very un-nerving.
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