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8 August, 2008 at 6:54 pm #359902
Maybe in Cloud Cukoo Land… Back on Planet Reality if the Cops from a foreign country with a history of corruption, are asking questions about whether you killed your Daughter, and are trying to railroad you into a confession, then you’re gonna be very careful what you say.
5 August, 2008 at 12:32 pm #359888Here’s another one from the Telegraph. The conclusions and wording of the second half of it is interesting.
Detectives’ inability even to establish whether the toddler is alive or dead epitomised the inquiry’s shortcomings, said public prosecutors Jose de Magalhaes and Joao Melchior Gomes.
The case against Kate and Gerry McCann, both 40, was dropped last month after it was decided that there was insufficient evidence against the couple.
But details of the 58 page report explaining reasons for shelving the case were only released yesterday.
“The investigators are well aware that their work is not exempt from imperfections,” the prosecutors said.
“They worked with an enormous margin of error and they achieved very little in terms of conclusive results, especially with regards to the fate of the unfortunate child.”
They went on to say that the disappearance of Madeleine was not a plot from a book, but a serious crime.
“This is not, unfortunately, a police story, a crime fit for the investigative mind of a Sherlock Holmes or a Hercule Poirot, guided by the illusion that the forces of law and justice always restore order.”
The prosecutors said despite the huge manhunt and inquiry, little had been achieved.
“No element of proof whatsoever was found which allows us to form any lucid, sensible, serious and honest conclusion about the circumstances (of Madeleine’s disappearance).
“Including, and most dramatically, establishing whether she is alive or dead, which seems more probable.”
Mr Magalhaes defended the McCanns’ decision to leave their children alone in the apartment on the night Madeleine vanished.
There was speculation that the couple, from Rothley in Leicestershire, may have ben charged with “abandonment”, which can incur a prison sentence of up to 10 years.
But Mr Magalhaes said Mr and Mrs McCann did not believe their children were in any danger when they left Madeleine and her younger twin siblings.
“It is obvious that neither of the defendants, Gerald or Kate, acted with intent,” they said.
“They could not predict that the resort where they had chosen to spend a few days holiday would leave the lives of any of their children in danger.
“It was located in a quiet place, where the majority of residents are foreign citizens of the same nationality and without any known history of this type of crime.
“Although they left their daughter alone with her siblings in the apartment, sometimes for extended periods, it is true that, in any case, they were keeping an eye on them.”
Both prosecutors went on to say that they felt the parents had suffered enough.
“We must also recognise that the parents are already paying a heavy penalty – the disappearance of Madeleine – for their carelessness in monitoring and protecting their children.
“It seems obvious to us that the crimes of exposure or abandonment can be eliminated.”
Mr Magalhaes said all the theories – including the possibility that the couple had accidentally killed their daughter and disposed of her body – had come to nothing.
He concluded:”While it is a fact that Madeleine disappeared from the Ocean Club apartment, the circumstances and manner of how this happened is not known.”
5 August, 2008 at 12:21 pm #359886We can always rely on Bat to jump right in with her trademark :roll:
Here’s an article from the Daily Mirror detailing the vile tactics that the Portugese Police used-
Police ignored expert advice that DNA did NOT link Kate and Gerry McCann to their daughter Madeleine’s disappearance, it emerged yesterday.
In an email, British scientist John Lowe told Portuguese investigators that the evidence found in the couple’s hired car was “inconclusive”.
Yet 48 hours later in a tough grilling bullying cops told the McCanns the traces DID come from Madeleine.
And two days after that the couple were made formal suspects, with police citing the DNA evidence as the reason
Now, the McCanns are asking why they came under suspicion when investigators already knew the “evidence” against them was deeply flawed.
The revelations came to light as prosecutors released 30,000 pages of case files following the shelving of the case two weeks ago.
Included are witness statements, transcripts of interviews with Kate and Gerry, details of lines of inquiry and pictures of Madeleine’s bedroom taken just hours after she vanished.
Also listed are 48 questions Kate, 40, did not answer. As the bullying probe intensified, Kate wisely used her rights to stay silent.
Among the notes is the email from John Lowe, of the Forensic Science Service, referring to DNA found in the boot of a Renault Scenic the McCanns hired after Madeleine vanished. He told UK police on September 3: “Let’s look at the question ‘Is there DNA from Madeleine on the swab?’ “It would be very simple to say ‘Yes’ because of the components within the result that are also in her sample.
“What we need to consider is whether the match is genuine because Madeleine deposited DNA in the car, or whether Madeleine appears to match the result by chance.”
Mr Lowe said some components in Madeleine’s profile were not unique to her. Some were even present among FSS scientists, including himself. He concluded: “We cannot answer the question: Is the match genuine, or is it a chance match?”
The email was translated into Portuguese on September 4.
On September 7, Gerry was questioned. The dossier reveals that in an eight-hour quiz he was told Madeleine’s DNA was found in the Renault boot.
He was also told traces were found behind a sofa in the family’s holiday apartment at Praia da Luz from where Madeleine vanished on May 3 last year.
The notes said: “Confronted with the fact that Madeleine’s DNA was gathered from behind the sofa and from the boot, and analysed by a British lab, he said he could not explain why.”
Gerry, 40, was asked: “Did you have any responsibility or intervention in your daughter’s disappearance?”
An officer’s notes say only that he categorically denied such a suggestion.
The notes go on: “He said that from the very start he thought that Madeleine had been abducted. He reached that conclusion because he did not think it was possible for her to have walked out or opened the shutter herself.”
Gerry denied suggestions that Kate was depressed or that their children – three-year-old Madeleine and twins Sean and Amelie, then two – were on medication.
Lawyers for the McCanns, of Rothley, Leics, were formally given access to the files last week. They continue to study the dossier for fresh leads that the couple’s private detectives can follow.
McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “The Portuguese Attorney General made it very clear that there’s absolutely no evidence of any wrongdoing by Kate and Gerry.
“A lot of this is historical detail drafted by officers who failed to find Madeleine and who quite wrongfully were going down inaccurate lines of supposition and assumption.”
Last month, Portugal’s law chief halted the investigation because there was no evidence of a crime.
The McCanns and expat Robert Murat, 34, were told they were no longer suspects. The case will remain closed unless new evidence emerges.
4 August, 2008 at 12:47 am #359194Never trust a Teetototaller.
3 August, 2008 at 10:33 pm #359264Bryan the fecker… Nuff Said.
3 August, 2008 at 7:35 pm #359262I went for Bryan the fecker.
3 August, 2008 at 6:32 pm #358783Dunno how Ars.enal will do this season. I do like the look of Spurs though. Could even be a top 4 team?
3 August, 2008 at 4:22 pm #359498Dosent say if he found any evidence.
I presume he didnt or he would have been found in a back alley with a Bullet in his head.
31 July, 2008 at 9:35 am #352788Try using Matty as your password.
31 July, 2008 at 9:03 am #358012@esmeralda wrote:
@pete wrote:
I said that 3 pages ago smiley keep up. Just hurt him for the hell of it if he doesnt know so what
I should imagine that every hurt conceivable, barring the death he so obviously yearns for, has been visited on the man throughout his incarceration.
Does inflicting pain on another human being -regardless of how wicked he or she may be – not reduce the inflictor to the same level of depravity, if not more so?What pains been inflicted on Brady? He’s spent his life serving a justful sentence for the horrendous crimes he commited.
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