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How could Derek have been rightfully and lawfully executed? I appreciate that this was the law back then and not now, however his execution for a crime he did not commit was wrong. He didn,t kill anyone. His “mate” did. An innocent person was sent to the gallows.
Yes Derek was sane, but he was still mentally retarded, even though that wasn,t recognised then, and as such wouldn,t have understood what the hell was going on.
As for Jamie Bulgers killers pete, at one time I may have said yes to hanging them. However I since think that maybe they should have been incarcerated for LIFE. ie carried out of prison in a box.
And it,s happened again. On one of the busiest nights of the year, stupid people were dialing 999 for nothing. One man rang because he had hurt his finger, another man rang because he wanted to know what time it was in New York!!!
These timewasting gonks should be traced via their phone calls and prosecuted. :evil:
If at the age of 19, a person has the mental age of an 11 year old, that makes them mentally handicapped. Derek may have had some understanding of right and wrong, and knew that burgling properites was wrong. However he was dragged along by his “mate” who saw this simple lad as an easy target and took unfair advantage of his reduced mental capacity.
It was HIM who shot PC Sidney Miles, not Derek. I can only imagine how terrifed Derek must have been to be sent to prison.
Yes his mate was 16 below the age at which he could have hung thats correct. In this case he should have been held maybe at a young offenders institution, if such places existed then, until he was of the legal age to pay for HIS crime.
The mandatory sentence for the crime commited was death by hanging yes, but it shouldn,t have been Derek who was hung because Derek didn,t shoot anyone.
Yes an innocent policeman was callously murdered, but not by Derek.
To hang anyone for a crime they didn,t commit is a travesty of justice. To hang a mentally handicapped child, because mentally that was what Derek was, is just beyond cruel. It was only right and proper that he recieved a full posthumous pardon.
@cherrybomb wrote:
@bat wrote:
Young?? Nooooooo she,s ancient. A bit like a dusty old Egyptian relic. *hides* :lol:
Yes my old volvo is like a tank. It,s real heavy solid car. Great for road rage. :lol::o Oh!!! how very dare you! At least when I walk I don’t rustle due to overuse of TenaLadies. 8)
No you just creak coz of all the rust. :lol:
This thread has gone totally off topic. It,s all woohoos fault. :lol:Young?? Nooooooo she,s ancient. A bit like a dusty old Egyptian relic. *hides* :lol:
Yes my old volvo is like a tank. It,s real heavy solid car. Great for road rage. :lol:@woohoo wrote:
@bat wrote:
@cherrybomb wrote:
@woohoo wrote:
OMG, you STILL have the Volvo? Jesus..
If i see an angry Bat coming at me in a red volvo, i’ll laugh, because i know you’ll either be pushing it, or it’ll break down just before it hits me.. :lol: :wink:
LMAO! oh thats not really funny is it. *sniggers* :lol:
Oh shut ya bliddy gob you old bint. :wink: Thats it, I,m gonna run BOTH of you over now. Humbug to new year. :lol:
Old Bint? FFS, i’m only 30.. Younger than your Volvo.. :lol:
Nooooooooooo I didn,t mean you ya great turnip I meant HER, that cherry person. :lol:
Your probably right @being younger than my car. It,s a D reg which is 1987 if I remember correctly without looking at my vehicle reg document. Long may I flap about in my Batmobile in 2009. :lol:@cherrybomb wrote:
@woohoo wrote:
OMG, you STILL have the Volvo? Jesus..
If i see an angry Bat coming at me in a red volvo, i’ll laugh, because i know you’ll either be pushing it, or it’ll break down just before it hits me.. :lol: :wink:
LMAO! oh thats not really funny is it. *sniggers* :lol:
Oh shut ya bliddy gob you old bint. :wink: Thats it, I,m gonna run BOTH of you over now. Humbug to new year. :lol:
@woohoo wrote:
@bat wrote:
My Oh went to tescos this morning and it said he thought that maybe a war had been declared overnight. Even the overflow car park was full, he couldn,t get in there.
He had to turn around and go to another tescos a bit further away and even then, it was mayhem. People had trolleys full of shopping. For Christs sake it,s only new years eve. How much food and booze do people need for one night ffs?
If that had been me I,d have serious road rage my volvo I tell ya. Stupid people. :evil:
My fault, i put word out that Tesco’s were going down the same road as Woolworths.. Oh Well.. Every little helps.. :lol:
If you see an angry Bat in a red volvo coming at you, you know who it is!! Git. :lol: :lol:
And a very happy new year to you too NCB, and too all the users at Just Chat.
Don,t get me started on this one PB. :evil: I,ve seen that film too. The fact remains that Derek Bentley was mentally handicapped. When he shouted to his mate to “let him have it” he probably meant to let the copper have the gun, not to kill him. And even IF he did mean shoot him, which I doubt, Derek didn,t kill anyone. He did NOT commit a crime, his mate did. Therefore to hang him for something he didn,t do was grossly unfair and a travesty of justice. I,m glad he was awarded his posthumous pardon. I was one of many who signed a petition for that reason.
It must be terrifying for anyone going to the gallows but can you imagine how much more terrifying it must be when you don,t even understand what your supposed to have done in the first place?
