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Oooops :oops: sorryyyyyyy
Didn’t mean to post that in triplicate. Dam pc grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :roll:
@tommy-toxen wrote:
you don’t know her circumstances, cas, i try not to judge.
DOA is obviously a very deranged and sick individual, I think I’d run away if I was his mother too.
he has admitted before he models himself after ‘the first chat room killer’, so lord knows what he was like with his mum.
anyway I think it’s safe to say where DOA is concerned, I’m sure she has a perfectly good reason for abandoning him.
The least he could do for being a complete to her is make it up to her in her dying years.
I don’t know her circumstances either Tom, which was why I said that none of us really, are in a position to judge.
Maybe she did have a good reason to leave, maybe she saw it, as some women do, her only way out of a bad situation. You can’t really lay the blame at the feet of DOA, whatever he might be or have said, he was still 7 years old at the time.
Why should he, if he chooses not to, make up anything to his mother, surely the onus is on her to do any making up and explaining, not him, having been only a small child. I would imagine confusion being one emotion playing a part. If your mother abandoned you, wouldn’t you want to know why? I probably would.
@tommy-toxen wrote:
you don’t know her circumstances, cas, i try not to judge.
DOA is obviously a very deranged and sick individual, I think I’d run away if I was his mother too.
he has admitted before he models himself after ‘the first chat room killer’, so lord knows what he was like with his mum.
anyway I think it’s safe to say where DOA is concerned, I’m sure she has a perfectly good reason for abandoning him.
The least he could do for being a complete to her is make it up to her in her dying years.
I don’t know her circumstances either Tom, which was why I said that none of us really, are in a position to judge.
Maybe she did have a good reason to leave, maybe she saw it, as some women do, her only way out of a bad situation. You can’t really lay the blame at the feet of DOA, whatever he might be or have said, he was still 7 years old at the time.
Why should he, if he chooses not to, make up anything to his mother, surely the onus is on her to do any making up and explaining, not him, having been only a small child. I would imagine confusion being one emotion playing a part. If your mother abandoned you, wouldn’t you want to know why? I probably would.
@tommy-toxen wrote:
you don’t know her circumstances, cas, i try not to judge.
DOA is obviously a very deranged and sick individual, I think I’d run away if I was his mother too.
he has admitted before he models himself after ‘the first chat room killer’, so lord knows what he was like with his mum.
anyway I think it’s safe to say where DOA is concerned, I’m sure she has a perfectly good reason for abandoning him.
The least he could do for being a complete to her is make it up to her in her dying years.
I don’t know her circumstances either Tom, which was why I said that none of us really, are in a position to judge.
Maybe she did have a good reason to leave, maybe she saw it, as some women do, her only way out of a bad situation. You can’t really lay the blame at the feet of DOA, whatever he might be or have said, he was still 7 years old at the time.
Why should he, if he chooses not to, make up anything to his mother, surely the onus is on her to do any making up and explaining, not him, having been only a small child. I would imagine confusion being one emotion playing a part. If your mother abandoned you, wouldn’t you want to know why? I probably would.
@tommy-toxen wrote:
one day off is ‘too much’ time due to being ill??
you complete sad act.
“honour thy mother and thy father” – it’s your duty to look after them, you selfish arrogant prat.. that’s if you’re even telling the truth!
With all due respect Tom, and I don’t know what history there is with you and DOA, don’t really want to know either.
You can quote ”Honour they Father and thy Mother” but didn’t she owe her children a ‘duty of care’ too, something she obviously didn’t follow through on. Maybe she had her reasons for walking when he was only a child, some people can get past that and some can’t. Without knowing the full history of it, it’s really for none of us to condemn him for his own feelings about it all.
If it helps tho, a few years ago, it seemed as tho my father in law, (who has since passed on) would have to go into a home. He owned his own house, the authorities told him he would have to sell it to pay for his care in a home. He transferred the estate to his eldest daughter, which meant, that if he’d gone into a home, he wouldn’t have had to pay.
@emmalush wrote:
@becky wrote:
I dont see how this is anything to do with politics
Politicians take part in the process of law making. If we had a governmnet who was tuff on crime, then society wouldnt be so lax, and this sort of thing wouldnt happen, and i wouldnt have to work so these criminals could get my money.
This sort of criminal act is becoming ever more normal, it didnt used to be.
We are becoming as a society weak in dealing with it, and it will ONLY get worse, unless we are prepared to do something about it.
Well said!!!
@pete wrote:
he revels in the publicity hence the letters saying he’ll find the last body.. he has no intention of it just gets him back in the news.. kill the f*cker i say make him scream make him beg then shoot him.. if the jobs going i’ll take it
Then take away his publicity Pete. As far as the media are concerned tho it sells newspapers, but there should be someone who would be able to prevent him from doing this. Killing him isn’t the answer, his life blood is his notoriety, take that away and then you’d be making him suffer.
@pete wrote:
I wont be watching it I remember reading the transcipt of the tape they made give me a gun i’ll happily put a bullet through his head today but first he gets to scream a lot
I don’t agree Pete. He clearly ”got his rocks off”, on the pain and brutality he inflicted on his victims.
Personally, i’m quite happy in the knowledge that he’s locked up and will never be a free man again. Such should be the fate of anyone! who murders in the way they did.
@tommy-toxen wrote:
I won’t be watching it, personally, because i’d just find it upsetting that these evil people are still alive, and get the privilage of being FAMOUS for their crimes! :roll:
It’s always the murderers who get famous and go down in the history books.. never the victims.
But I’m not against them making it, i watched a yorkshire ripper documentry the other day, so i’d be a hypocrit if i was against making this dramatization
I didn’t see it Tom, but I did read Richard McCanns book, the first one, it was called ”Just A Boy”. For anyone who’s interested in the devastating effects it all has on family and children left behind it’s an excellent read, very touching, very eye opening too regarding the very people, ie., social workers, who were supposed to help. Seemed to me that the only person who had any help or notoriety, was Peter Sutcliffe. Not that these children wanted notoriety. What they wanted, needed even, seemed largely ignored.
@pats wrote:
new pics in the sunday tabloids of 12 yr old sitting on a rubbish strewn couch.fag in hand….brimming ashtray on her knee. mother in kitchen doing heroin. :shock: aparently she allows heroin to be sold from their flat. mother says *social services should be helping us more!*
Would that be with a new supplier you reckon Pats :wink: Or maybe a f*cking shed load of contraceptives, nah that wouldn’t work, they probably cant read!!:lol: :lol: :lol:
Do scuse my cynicism Pats :lol: but it’s like Catz said, she’s spot on actually!! They DO! know thier rights, every last one of em :roll:
