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PB off topic just for now.
I wonder if you could remove Pete’s and Jushere posts from this. I’m a bit sickened at them turning this thread into their own private battlefield, if they want to score points against each other, i’d suggest they take it elsewhere :twisted:
(Request dealt with …..Ed)
Someone on that site now released the mothers name,,,,,,,,Tracey Connelly.
PB, while I understand the sentiment behind the not naming and protecting the baby’s identity,,,,,,doesn’t really make much difference to him now does it.
As for any further children she may have, I personally don’t think she should ever be allowed to see them again! She should almost certainly be forcefully sterilised / prevented from having any further children. Sadly tho, that will never happen :twisted:
@tinkerbell wrote:
Cas how do you go about emailing your MP because I would like to do the same. Like you said, if the people responsible got sacked it would be at least a small justice. Hopefully public opinion will rule.
If you have a local paper or magazine, that would tell you who yr local MP is,,,,or you could contact your local council, tell them where you live and they would give you the name of yr local MP.
I wasn’t sure so I googled Romford MP’s and that was how I found my one.
Iv’e followed the lead of some of the posters on the link today and mailed my own MP. Have simply said that i’m disgusted at the whole scenario, the appalling statements made by that woman, who shouldn’t be asked to resign, who should be sacked! along with anyone else who had dealings with this case.
Iv’e also said that I feel that the peadiatrician, who examined that little boy, days before his death, be struck off!,,,,,,,how can someone who calls themselves a doctor ”miss” broken ribs!
None of it will bring this baby back. If tho, a public inquiry is called and it also re-opens the police investigation into the whole matter, brings further, more serious charges against his abusers, and the sacking of all those in supposed authority, it would be a small justice.
Just a thought
I dunno whether PB might know, but if a full public inquiry were to be granted, would this open up the police investigation into this case and if so, would it make a difference to the charges against these three. Would the police then be able to charge them with the systematic murder of this child, or at the very least, manslaughter?
@bat wrote:
Bloody good point there Slayer, I hadn,t thought of that. It will indeed be very interesting when the “sentence” is passed in a few weeks.
One thing however we can be certain of, is that once inside, the other prisoners will deal out their own form of punishment given half a chance. And the prison guards will turn a blind eye to it. Even the most hardened criminals hate crimes against kids with a passion. They,ll get their comeupance one way or the other. Lets hope it,s a painful one. Bastards. :evil:
Bat they’d be segregated from fellow prisoners for their own safety. People inside tho often and do still, find a way!,,,,let’s hope so in the case of these 3.I read your link again where it said the mother had boasted to ”freinds”,,,,she has freinds!!!??,,,i’d have to say that i’d feel the same contempt for anyone who called themselves ‘freinds’ of theirs as I do them. Sadly though Bat, with the charges brought, what she says could well be true. :? I read a lot of the responses on that link too, one of them from Ilford posted a letter which he’d written to his own MP, and calling for others to do the same, calling for a full public inquiry into Mrs Shoesmith, and anyone else who had dealings with this case. It’s really not good enough to know that that child was visited over 60 times, and his injuries were missed. They have the responsibility of the job and should therefore be held accountable when they go wrong, as would we all, in whatever job we may hold. The peadiatrician who also ‘missed’ his injuries, should be struck off!! what kind of doctor is she that she missed broken ribs!!!
Anyway, personally, I will be writing to my own MP. Not only agreeing that a full inquiry should take place, but the sacking of that woman too,,,,not asking her to resign, sacking her!! :twisted:
@woohoo wrote:
@bat wrote:
Reading about the boyfriend, he apparantly can,t read or write, but he can text on his mobile!!!
Apparantly he was bullied as a child so he thought he,d try and “toughen the baby up” a bit, so that he could look after himself when he was older.
Meanwhile these bloody useless clipboard carrying gonks do nothing. Sod all. I don,t know how they sleep nights either. They don,t deserve too. :evil:How many of us have been bullied at school? Picked on, etc.. (Pathetic excuse)..
I won’t even play fight with my son.How do you toughen a baby up?
my schooldays were horendous woo,,,,,something i’d much rather forget,,was the quiet, shy one, was persecuted at school. Didn’t ever! make me turn into what I can’t find the words for.
It’s become, it seems, an excuse, rolled out far too often :twisted: :roll:
@chickenman wrote:
@cas wrote:
I’ll watch with interest now and to the sentencing of these two, social worker, psychiatric reports and I don’t doubt reports of what a dreadful upbringing they had themselves, which left them feeling that what they did was the ”only way they knew” :roll:
ill tell you what the sentencing will be they will throw the book at the men and she will get off lightly to carry on breeding :evil:
Sadly CM,,,,I dont doubt that for one minute :roll: :twisted: :twisted:
Mrs Shoesmith said: ‘The child was killed by members of his own family. The agencies are not responsible for his death. The very sad fact is that you cannot stop people who are determined to kill children.’
:shock: :?
What a horendous statement to make. Maybe Mrs Shoesmith would like to resign her £100,000.00 a year position then, whats the point of her job if the above is so!!!???
I found myself agreeing with David Cameron today (probably for the first time) that a full inquiry into the services and how the money is spent should be carried out, it won’t save this little boy, but may save others. Then that drip, Gordon Brown accuses him of playin party politics!!!!
Maybe Mr Brown needs to extract his head from his ar se and see that a full inquiry, heads rolling,,,,,,,dismissals,,,,,,,,and whatever else it takes is what needs to be done!
I’ll watch with interest now and to the sentencing of these two, social worker, psychiatric reports and I don’t doubt reports of what a dreadful upbringing they had themselves, which left them feeling that what they did was the ”only way they knew” :roll:
Despite being put on Haringey’s Child Protection Register eight months before his death, social workers chose repeatedly to return him to his mother, against the advice of police who had twice arrested her on suspicion of assault.
I watched that woman, Sharon Shoesmith, on the news last night. She prattled on about she didn’t feel a need to sack anyone, written warnings would be given :roll: Not worth the paper they’re written on :roll: Surely the above in itself, says that someone should lose their job, the someone who returned this little lad to those brutes ”against”!! police advice. It then goes on to say that errors were also made by the police, i’m thinking more to cover the ar se of the person responsible!
I’d like to say that I hope they never sleep well again, knowing that they’re party responsible for that little boys injuries. They will though, just another case load to them, lets move on to the next one. Same old same old excuses come out time after time after time,,,,,,too many case loads. Haringeys promise that none of them will have case loads of more than 12,,,,,and a woman last night who wished to remain anonymous stating that the minimum was 20. Why!! is this allowed to continue!!!
Something else that puzzles me, the childs attackers not being named. ‘Cannot be named for legal reasons’,,,,,,,you hear this all the time when it’s kids, under age, below the age of criminal responsibility. These two aren’t, the only conclusion I can come to is that this is in order to protect them!!,,,,,,do they deserve protection?,,,,,I don’t think so. You can all though, rest assured that that is exactly what these two scumbags will get!! They’ll be kept segregated from fellow prisoners in order to protect them.
Iv’e said many times before, often been shouted down for saying it too. They should both, surgically, be prevented from bringing any other children into the world. It’s not enough to say at times that any further children she may have (cos we all know that she won’t be in prison forever) be taken away from her immediately, at risk, etc etc., because all that happens then is the do-gooder brigade come out in force screaming about her ”human rights”,,,they seem to conveniently forget about the ‘human rights’ of the child she murdered, cos in my opinion, that’s what she did, she murdered that poor little soul.
I hope they rot in hell!!! :twisted:
