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@forumhostpb wrote:
…. and if they don’t we should cave their heads in with iron bars !!!
No of course not PB…….the iron bar was a bit much. However, I think the same uproar would have been made had the woman merely slapped him round the head, which was nothing short of what he deserved, he’s a bad mannered little thug. And of course Emma, would have, as she did, gleefully picked up on the fact that the woman wasn’t a british national but an immigrant :roll:
@token_male wrote:
@kentlass19 wrote:
she was an adult assaulting a child and should be put in prison for a long time. unfortunately the court system is so shyte she’ll be out within a couple of months if she gets given time at all.
yes along with the childs mother!!
if the mother had taught the child simple things such as manners and common decency and respect then the child would not of thrown anything at the lady or swore at her or used a comment such as go home!
lock up the attacker and send the boys mother down too!! until she can learn how to raise a child with manners!
Well said Token =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>No, maybe her reaction wasn’t right,,,,,,,but I too, get sick to death of kids of his age and younger, mouthing off, they think it’s their god given right. Tokens right, they should learn some respect and manners!!!
Huntley hadn’t been in the press for a while, no one was taking much notice of him. So there he goes, getting himself headlined again, knowing exactly how to do it too. He doesn’t want to kill himself, (mores the pity) just craves the attention.
We can only hope that one day, there’s going to be a prison officer who don’t give a rats a rse and lets him actually die :twisted:
@~Pebbles~ wrote:
@cas wrote:
And, I think you’ll find that there are laws in place regarding abusing the elderly lol, but that doesnt mean it still doesnt happen.
Check it out,,,,,,it doesnt exist,,,,,,,,,NSPCC for children, as there should be,,,,,,,,RSPCA for animals,,,,,and we both know how we each feel about that,,,,,,,there is NO, such organisation in existence, for the elderly
ermm….help the aged??? :roll:
and as for “RSPCA for animals,,,,,and we both know how we each feel about that,,,,,,,” Ohhh so you actually dont think that such an organisation should exist and that what some people do to animals is acceptable?
Funny how you think one form of abuse is outrageous, yet another form is perfectly acceptable…thing is, I actually dont like the idea of animal OR elderly abuse…i didnt realise I had to choose :roll:
I think any kind of abuse Pebbles is wrong, whether it be against a human being, an animal a child……… I find none of it acceptable….but I do also find it awful strange, that whilst there are laws in place to protect children and animals, there are none for the elderly.Have you seen any of the under cover programmes lately, on the way some of these people are treated, in the homes they’re in, in their own homes! Would you like it if it happened to a relative of yours, I think not. If you haven’t seen any of them, maybe you should, you might have a little understanding of where i’m coming from.
And please don’t pigeon hole me as a person who thinks one is ok and the other isn’t, I don’t. I do tho, just wish that people would shout equally as loudly, for the rights of elderly people, not to suffer abuse at the hands of those who are supposed to be caring for them.
@sharongooner wrote:
You are right Cas. All there is for elderly people is “help the aged” and similar charities.
No laws Im afraid :evil:
Thankyou Sharon.
Yes theres Age Concern,,,,my mum used to call them Age Un-Concerned, lol bless her.
They closed down a lot of the lunch clubs,,,,,,one that she used to go to, not for lunch but for an afternoon, with her freinds. They were told they could continue to go but it wouldn’t be as it was before, as most of the people going would be mentally / physically disabled, with their carers etc etc., they were made to feel like they wouldn’t really be welcome.
Age Concern organise things like this,,,,house, personal insurance, holidays for the elderly etc., not much else.
And, I think you’ll find that there are laws in place regarding abusing the elderly lol, but that doesnt mean it still doesnt happen.
Check it out,,,,,,it doesnt exist,,,,,,,,,NSPCC for children, as there should be,,,,,,,,RSPCA for animals,,,,,and we both know how we each feel about that,,,,,,,there is NO, such organisation in existence, for the elderly
Ere we go again with the tree huggin band thinking animals shouldn’t be treated in this way :roll: :roll:
Elderly people shouldn’t be treated the way they are either, there are lots of cases of them being abused by the very people who are supposed to be looking after them,,,,,,but,,,,,theres no such law for the elderly, as there is with animals and children.
Now if Pebbles and the like were shouting from the rooftops about that, as they are over an animal, who’s life is mapped out from the day it’s born, one day it’s going to go to the slaughter house and become part of the food chain!! Then!! I might be impressed,,,,,,,,get a grip ffs!!! :roll:
@ubermik wrote:
@cas wrote:
I personally don’t think a ”perfect” as you put it, parent, exists.
As parents, we do our best…..I personally work in the licenced trade, i’m a Manager for a branch of Threshers. I see plenty parents coming in there, buying alchohol, I sell it to them, doesn’t make them bad parents, doesn’t make me a bad parent because I like to have a drink.
But Uber………….if it came to a choice of putting a meal on the table, or buying a bottle of alchohol, it would definately be a meal on the table,,,,,I can’t say the same thing for some of the customers who come into the shop. Who, having bought their alchohol and cigarettes, scream expletives at the child when it has the audacity to ask for a bag of crisps or a packet of sweets, with the words, ”I aint got the money for sweets!!!!!”
I have on many occassions given the child the sweets or crisps. So whether you like it or not, Sweet does have a very valid point.
But isnt that the exact same point I made?
That most people who are clinically classed as alcoholics arent drunken bums who never have food in for their kids? Look up the definition of an alcoholic, its simply someone who HAS to have a drink, cant do without it. Many of them have well paid jobs and can quite capably manage both and are often not even thought of as having a “problem” by anyone who knows them
But it CAN still have an adverse effect on their kids many years down the road as can many quite ordinary occurences in a household which are far LESS obvious than the likely negatives from growing up in a gay single sex parenting enviroment
The point I was making there is nobody bats an eyelid at theorising the possible harm any factor in a straight household might have, but try to get people to do the EXACT SAME thing where gay people are concerned and the “oooh you homophobe”, “your a gay basher” or “are you secretly gay” nonsense is wheeled out because people in general have been brainwashed into feeling its “wrong” to discuss or examine aspects of gay peoples lives that wouldnt be given a second thought if being done to straight people which is usually quite clearly shown when I wheel threads like this out for the first time on a message board as its a good one for seeing the thought behind peoples views
I wasn’t accusing you of anything Uber, just asking the question.
While your theorising tho, that many people who might have a drug or alchohol problem but who also hold down well paid jobs and look after their kids. There are also those who don’t. Those who do have drug/alchohol problems, bang out kids by the dozen because theyre too ”out of it” to think about contraceptive, much less use it. Children which are paid for out of the benefits office, ultimately the tax payer, the parent continuing their choice of lifestyle, ie., drugs/alchohol, instead of using the money given them to care for their children properly. So,,,,,thats where Sweet, does have a very valid point, you can dress it up all you like, with the so called, responsible drug/alchohol users, there are plenty who don’t give a sh it about anyone or anything when it comes to the next fix, and will!! neglect their children and sell their own mothers. If you think that’s wrong, then I think you must be living on another planet!
On the whole point of the IVF issue itself.
Do I think that Lesbians/Gays should be able to re-produce by use of this method? whatever mine or anyone elses thoughts, it’s going to happen, it’s already happened.
I don’t tho, and never will, think that they should be made a special case because of their ”circumstances”, whether through choice, or genetics, they should be placed on the same waiting list and have to go through the same scutiny’s as any normal couple who wish to have children but cannot, or fail to conceive, for whatever reason, in the normal way. Doesn’t happen tho does it, thanks to the PC brigade :roll: [/color]
I personally don’t think a ”perfect” as you put it, parent, exists.
As parents, we do our best…..I personally work in the licenced trade, i’m a Manager for a branch of Threshers. I see plenty parents coming in there, buying alchohol, I sell it to them, doesn’t make them bad parents, doesn’t make me a bad parent because I like to have a drink.
But Uber………….if it came to a choice of putting a meal on the table, or buying a bottle of alchohol, it would definately be a meal on the table,,,,,I can’t say the same thing for some of the customers who come into the shop. Who, having bought their alchohol and cigarettes, scream expletives at the child when it has the audacity to ask for a bag of crisps or a packet of sweets, with the words, ”I aint got the money for sweets!!!!!”
I have on many occassions given the child the sweets or crisps. So whether you like it or not, Sweet does have a very valid point.
