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This is the reason I know many wont talk about their background/culture/ethnicity in the room due to abuse…in fact I have had pms from Indians who wont say they are Indian in the room due to the abuse they’ve seen me get…how sad is that..no one should hide what they are …when I first started chatting I loved the fact there were people from so many different backgrounds and walks of life at our fingertips….you could ask questions about anything and learn….that to me was one of the reasons I continued chatting
The indian people I know in the rooms have never said anything to me about abuse and I have never seen it myself, so who am I to believe?
and Drac….analyse anything and you can find another angle….but some things don’t need deep analysis….Sophia had some disgusting words slung at her and all you can say is you don’t think the chatter was racist?
It matters when we are having a discusion about what things are racist, and how to define them.
Yes she had bad things said to her (allegedly), but she has also said bad things here which you are all too quick to ignore. It seems like there is a case of double standards being applied here.
…..if you murder someone but did it for effect…but not to actually kill someone deliberately….are you not a murderer?
Manslaughter is a different crime than murder, so i’m not quite sure what point you are trying to make.
Knocks on draculinas head, anybody home?
*No reply*
Nothing you just said even makes any sense to me.
The intent wasn’t racist (you hope, though it’s not so clear to me!) but, as you say, the language was racist. That’s what counts, not trying to guess whether the shyte intended to be racist or not.
The intent was to make Sophia think he was racist, in order to get a reaction (which he got, as we are talking about it now). If he actually is or not is largely irrelevant to this conversation, the intent to cause harm is more important to me.
The context is of a society where racism (and xenophobia) is still there, taking new forms all the time. You can see it in the room a lot. I knew one guy in Hoxton who was the child of a black dad and a white mum, and he suffered real persecution.
I don’t think there are very many genuine racists around in this country still, the media is however trying to create them for some reason (and is openly racist itself in some cases).
If you were meeting clients you wouldn’t do it in a wetherspoons unless ta tighter than a ducks butt as its food and beer are cheap!!
Well, i’m sorry for being poor then.
But if some low piece of slime is going to use such racist filth in order to troll Sophia, then it doesn’t stop being racist because it’s being used to provoke.
Language does indeed rely on context, and if the context is racially charged for any reason, then the language is racist.
What was said was racist, I agree. I meant that I don’t think the person who said it is actually a racist, just someone who thought it would be an effective way to provoke a response. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.
You don’t think Jim Davidson and Bernard manning used racist language just because they were pretending to be funny? It was racist humour, pure and simple.
I don’t know who either of these people are, but ironic racism is a thing. I do it sometimes in the chat room (impersonating a Nazi in my case).
I have never really had any problems with Wetherspoons, I go there fairly regularly to meet with business clients as my home office isn’t really equiped to do that.
Maybe that’s because I go there during times that its not busy, or just that the one that I go to is better.
So there can be racist intent??
Well … yes?
Take the example : “I think that all black people should be shot because they are animals”. None of those individual words are ‘racist’, but when taken in context the whole sentance would be.
Its either the words that are racist, or the intention. You can’t pick and choose which when its convenient for your narative.
Bounty Hunter: ur the whore who shags ni ggers then moans on the boards someone calls them golliwogs u dirty kunt
That sounds to me just like a troll who is trying to provoke a negative reaction from you, rather than genuine hatred of black people.
Again, this is the context that matters (that it was said on a chat site where there are trolls), not the words that were said.
Now that is a prime example of racist words used with racist intent. They (almost) always are and, as Ms K has said, it’s pedantic to pretend otherwise.
I don’t think the intent is clear in this example, as I said. But it is certainly a possibility still.
I’ve said enough times on these boards why paki is offensive and used differently to say the word Brit or scot……I’m not going to repeat it again…..and for the ones who cant see the difference I will put my neck on the line and say you are being bloody minded and deliberately pedantic with your play in words to admit you don’t know the difference……you don’t know how paki Is used negatively? My @rse
There is no difference, other than the intention with which it is used.
Don’t forget french to froggy cheese eating surrender monkey
C’est raciste!
Je suis si offense.
