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14 June, 2006 at 10:30 am #224455
@tiler wrote:
He was betrayed by Moslems though wasn’t he?
Was he, or is that what the US said. :?:
Drivel,
Yes a small incident in a much larger picture containing much larger actions, you don’t worry about the equivalent of a mark on the wallpaper, when the house is being destroyed.How does the beheading of one man stack up against the systematic destruction of a city and the slaughter of the civilian population, by US missiles. (all except the Oil Ministry building of course)
Yea I can see your point Tiler if it had been an innocent father of an innocent family that were killed accidentally .
But I would have questioned this guy’s real motives and loyalties
We can agree to differ14 June, 2006 at 10:13 am #225767I think you will find that number plate is illegal
Handy when going through speed cameras though !!!
14 June, 2006 at 10:11 am #225890@pats wrote:
my kid dont wipe his ar/se half the time. :evil: :-…
Saves on the bog paper then fats – you can always tell when ur boxers need washing – cos they stick to the wall when u kick them off !!!
14 June, 2006 at 9:48 am #225779yea I was a bit disappointed in Brazil , there again Croatia are no mugs – they have kept the same team more or less for years – they could have snatched a draw
Ronaldo to me looked too big all of last season – but last night he just didn’t look interested at all
It’s shaping up nicely though – Argentina and italy have impressed so far followed by Holland – Robben has had the best individual display for me – by a mile14 June, 2006 at 8:32 am #224809@Mr Bigstuff wrote:
Drivel’s history of that area is predictably flawed. First of all, the Hebrews were not the original inhabitants of that land, the Canaanites were
How come my history is flawed just because the books I read are from a Jewish perspective – you are readign from an Arab perspective – that’s how there are differences
I didn’t say the Hebrews were the original inhabitants – I said they had been there since 1300 BC
Of course I have omitted things – theres a shed load of things we can argue aboutPalestinians are arabs indistinguishable from arabs throughout the Middle East The Palestinian national Charter adopted by the PLO states this fact in the 1st Article
The use of the term “palestinian” for an arab ethnic group is a modern political creation which has no basis in fact , and had never had any International or academic credibility before 196714 June, 2006 at 8:00 am #224493@Ow£n Ka$h wrote:
@drivel wrote:
I’m for the death penalty in certain cases – as well as it being dependant on the level of proof
I can’t understand how folks can argue that the death penalty is any more inhumane than putting someone in SC for ever on bread and water . To me that’s more inhumane and a total waste of moneyA few years ago, Stefan Kiszko who had confessed to raping and murdering a young girl was released, thanks to the advancement in forensic science.
There is no halfway house when it comes to the death penalty.
Better that ten guilty men go free than execute one innocent man!Well if the stupid sod confessed to murder when he didn’t do it – he deserves what he gets !!
One things for sure if you hang them -they won’t be committing any crimes any more14 June, 2006 at 7:54 am #224453@tiler wrote:
Unfortunately Slayer its people with your kind of thinking, that have created the mess in Iraq, trotting out the tripe about beheading, there is more to this conflict than small things like that.
Atrocities are committed by both sides, so don’t be naive, and pretend the West is so goody goody.Dear me – small things like a beheading ????
Will somebody please deport this man
13 June, 2006 at 6:31 pm #225238I really think Tiler should emigrate
13 June, 2006 at 4:11 pm #195902OOOOOPPPPPPSSSSSSSSS -ffs
There must be some mistake – I am gonna redo the test
13 June, 2006 at 2:31 pm #224805It seems you have to be either pro-Arab or pro_Israeli in this argument there is no middle ground – no wonder there will never be peace
If you take the arguments of Bass Slayer etc on previous topics – they say look at the history books.
Well as far as history goes this land belonged to the Jews . Israel became a nation about 1300 BC , 2,000 years before the rise of Islam .
King David established the city of Jerusalem as the capital of the whole Land of Israel Mohammed never came to Jerusalem .
After the Romans conquered Jerusalem 2,000 years ago – the Jews were expelled – they didn’t start to return to their country until the 1st half of the 20th century
It wasn’t until the Jews re-inhabited their historic homeland of Judea and Samaria that the myth of the Palestinian Nation was created
There is no language known as Palestinian , or any Palestinian culture distinct from any of the other Arab Nations in the Middle East – and there has never been previously a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians
The Arabs instigated 4 wars against Israel – all of which Israel won and after each ne the Israeli army withdrew from most of areas they captured
When the 7 Arab countries attacked Israel in 1948 it created a huge mass of Arab refugees – which were intentionally not integrated into the Arab countries to which they fled – even though the Arab Nations are some 700 times the size of Israel
The UN partition plan of 1947 was rejected by all of the Arab countries Arab leadership in Israel and surrounding countries planned a Jihad against Israel , encouraging Arabs to leave Israel , promising their return after the war .Seems to me like the Arabs got it wrong somewhere
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