• Yeah right … a likely story. They ALL claim that it was nothing to do with them and they were just innocently carrying this case / bag / box / gift for a “friend” who they mysteriously met a few days previously.

    Well his alleged suffering from ‘delusions’ will soon be over – with a bullet in the back of the head…… and hopefully, in…[Read more]

  • Now …. going back to the main theme of this post in hopefully a constructive way:

    There are two approaches that one can take to this issue (that of criminals ‘getting away’ with inappropriately light sentences).

    Punishments, although handed down by the Courts after due process, are in fact enshrined in law. Every Act of Parliament that creates…[Read more]

  • I make no apologies for my cynicism ….. however ….. often when a ‘celeb’ dies of a sudden and unexpected heart attack, especially when they are ‘young’ it is often a Media euphemism for drug abuse.

    I wonder how long it will be before we hear reports of said ‘celeb’ indulging in ‘powdering her nose’ etc etc???

  • To answer tictax’s point – sexual intercourse with a female child under the age of 16 is (in the UK) a criminal offence (‘USI’ or Unlawful Sexual Intercourse). The punishment in law is less severe for males under the age of 25 but for the over 25’s it is punishable by a maximum of life imprisonment.

    Yes, it is true that each case rests in its own…[Read more]

  • OOOPS!!! that really was a Freudian slip wasn’t it?

    MoVing on however, it appears from today’s news that the Auschwitz sign thieves weren’t neo-Nazis after all (now there’s a surprise) but were in fact common criminals – who have been arested – the German equivalent of pikey scrap metal dealers.

    So all the hoo-ha (or ‘sturm unt drang’) around…[Read more]

  • The Government is, I’m afraid, fully committed to doing all it can to immerse the issue of the punishment of criminals in as deep a layer of bullshit as it can manage ……. as evidenced by the above quoted Government response.

  • ForumHostPB replied to the topic Not Again in the board Getting serious 15 years, 7 months ago

    I totally share the above views. I firmly believe in retribution and not in redemption or reformation.

    To the ‘tree huggers’ and ‘social reformers’ I say this. Don’t speak of reforming bad people, they have no inner desire to be reformed. Instead simply treat them like the criminals they are and lock them away from society until they are…[Read more]

  • ForumHostPB replied to the topic Not Again in the board Getting serious 15 years, 7 months ago

    “Innocent until proven Guilty (beyond all reasonable doubt)” is a fine concept and is one that protects ALL of us against being falsely accused or wrongly convicted.

    However, it seems to me that this wonderful concept applies only to the (alleged) perpetrator of a crime. The victim has no protection under law – as the law only comes into effect…[Read more]

  • Before you attempt to decide on a punishment Cath, you have to really clearly define the crime to which that punishment should apply.

    The term “Child abuser” for example probably means different things to different people. Whereas one person might accept ‘reasonable parental chastisement’ another would totally oppose it.

    Some parent(s) feel that…[Read more]

  • ForumHostPB replied to the topic Not Again in the board Getting serious 15 years, 7 months ago

    I keep on being drawn back to the inescapable fact, that in the majority of cases (NOT all cases) it is the parents – or their partners – who are primarily responsible for the awful things that children suffer, as we see almost weekly in the Media.

    No amount of ‘vigilante justice’ etc seems to provide a way of actually preventing this. Reacting…[Read more]

  • ForumHostPB replied to the topic Not Again in the board Getting serious 15 years, 7 months ago

    Very fair point cath. I do find myself torn between a wholly natural instinct as a parent to wreak revenge on a person that threatens my child on the one hand and my equally strong dislike of ‘mob rule’ or if you prefer ‘vigilante justice’.

    I genuinely mourn the banning of capital punishment and substitution of ‘life sentences’ – which only…[Read more]

  • I understand all the comments along the lines of “we must remember so that it can never happen again” and yet, as Pete so aptly points out, it has happened again …. and keep on happening over and over and over again.

    Asia, the Middle East, and particularly Africa … wherever you look people are being slaughtered in their hundreds of thousands…[Read more]

  • ForumHostPB replied to the topic Not Again in the board Getting serious 15 years, 7 months ago

    I like Pete’s direct approach to ‘paedophiles’ …. BANG !! – game over!!!

    The only snag is – what if the person isn’t a paedophile???

    If, for example, you were a Sun reader, then you’d have topped your local Paediatrician.

  • @minim wrote:

    Nothing they are too busy beating around the bush and hedging their bets.

    No minim, that’s Agnostics. Atheists are quite definite in their lack of belief in God.

  • ForumHostPB replied to the topic Not Again in the board Getting serious 15 years, 7 months ago

    The very sad bottom line Cas is that few people (if any) speak for the rights of murdered or abused children – or indeed for victims of crime generally.

    Sexual predators often get some sort of sick thrill out of re-living their disgusting experience and ‘appealing’ against a finding of guilt allows them to re-visit the entire thing all over…[Read more]

  • Here’s a silly thought for Christmas. It seems perfectly acceptable for a person to say “Oh God, I’m coming” at that rather private moment couples have when they make love.

    So …… what do Atheists say ???

    PS: With apologies to Dave Allen

  • I do find “Holocaust deniers” somewhat weird. There is an enormous amount of hard physical evidence; eyewitness avccounts; original documentation from the Nazis – in incredible detail; newsreel footage shot at the time; and so on. So I’m puzzled as to quite how these people cannot believe that it really really happened.

    That said, the whole thing…[Read more]

  • Bah Humbug NCB !!!

  • ForumHostPB replied to the topic BA strike in the board Getting serious 15 years, 7 months ago

    @tictax wrote:

    …………competition has knocked BA off its flagship perch, the economic climate ? more are flying than ever. why shud the workers suffer.

    I guess that this is the nub of it eh? BA’s competitors are delivering a service to THEIR customers substantially cheaper that BA can currently deliver to its customers. Thus BA (and their…[Read more]

  • Why??? God only knows !!! :lol:

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