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Very fair point cath. I do find myself torn between a wholly natural instinct as a parent to wreak revenge on a person that threatens my child on the one hand and my equally strong dislike of ‘mob rule’ or if you prefer ‘vigilante justice’.
I genuinely mourn the banning of capital punishment and substitution of ‘life sentences’ – which only amount to a few years inmprisonment. If life imprisonment meant imprisonment for life, literally, then maybe that would go some way towards redressing the balance between innocent victim and murderer.
However, the current system is what we have all allowed to happen and has been driven by the well meaning, intellectual, liberal minded, ‘chatterati’.
Such, as they say, it life.
I understand all the comments along the lines of “we must remember so that it can never happen again” and yet, as Pete so aptly points out, it has happened again …. and keep on happening over and over and over again.
Asia, the Middle East, and particularly Africa … wherever you look people are being slaughtered in their hundreds of thousands and seemingly for broadly the same reasons that the Nazis slaughtered, not only the Jews, but anybody that they didn’t like.
So I find myself wondering just what it is that we must “remember” in order to stop it “happening again”?
OK so pinching the “Arbeit Macht Frei”sign was guaranteed to offend pretty much anybody at one level or another, but maybe there is a message here. Maybe, just maybe beating ourselves up with ‘guilt’ for the last 65-70 years or so is enough and we really should mone on.
I like Pete’s direct approach to ‘paedophiles’ …. BANG !! – game over!!!
The only snag is – what if the person isn’t a paedophile???
If, for example, you were a Sun reader, then you’d have topped your local Paediatrician.
@minim wrote:
Nothing they are too busy beating around the bush and hedging their bets.
No minim, that’s Agnostics. Atheists are quite definite in their lack of belief in God.
The very sad bottom line Cas is that few people (if any) speak for the rights of murdered or abused children – or indeed for victims of crime generally.
Sexual predators often get some sort of sick thrill out of re-living their disgusting experience and ‘appealing’ against a finding of guilt allows them to re-visit the entire thing all over again. Lawyers (often paid via legal aid) participate in this and sometimes actually encourage their clients to appeal – it makes them another pot of money in fees etc.
Here’s a silly thought for Christmas. It seems perfectly acceptable for a person to say “Oh God, I’m coming” at that rather private moment couples have when they make love.
So …… what do Atheists say ???
PS: With apologies to Dave Allen
I do find “Holocaust deniers” somewhat weird. There is an enormous amount of hard physical evidence; eyewitness avccounts; original documentation from the Nazis – in incredible detail; newsreel footage shot at the time; and so on. So I’m puzzled as to quite how these people cannot believe that it really really happened.
That said, the whole thing happened some 65 – 70 years ago and I sometimes wonder if it’s time to move on. That’s not to say “forget” ‘cos nobody could or should forget what happened, but maybe allow the past to remain there.
Bah Humbug NCB !!!
@tictax wrote:
…………competition has knocked BA off its flagship perch, the economic climate ? more are flying than ever. why shud the workers suffer.
I guess that this is the nub of it eh? BA’s competitors are delivering a service to THEIR customers substantially cheaper that BA can currently deliver to its customers. Thus BA (and their staff) have to adapt to the way the market currently is – and not to the way it used to be many years ago.
If they refuse to do so, then eventually, as their customer base is eroded, the airline will contract (and a lot of the staff will lose their jobs) and ultimately close (and then ALL the staff will lose their jobs). The Italian airline Alitalia is an excellent current example of this.
This dispute appears to be all about the union ‘Unite’ ( and thus the staff of BA) refusing to accept any modification in their terms so as to allow their employer to compete in a highly competitive marketplace.
Why??? God only knows !!! :lol:
