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16 December, 2009 at 10:44 am #425714
Yes Bas, that would go down well with the male train spotting fraternity – but not with ‘wimmin’ visitors from Lesbos, who seem to make up the majority of the ‘Wimmin’s Lib’ fascists.
I suspect that the archetypal feminist would DEMAND that the female depiction of the Fat Controller’s deputy should be: a) not the deputy at all but the ‘boss’ and b) should be wearing dungarees, be flat chested (the bra having been previously burnt), and have a close cropped hairstyle, so as to avoid any form of ‘feminine’ stereotyping.
Oh and I nearly forgot the final and essential qualification – ‘she’ should possess a degree from the University of Alberta
15 December, 2009 at 10:34 pm #425896Pete, you can downsize staff by ‘natural wastage’ and voluntary redundancy, but this generally takes quite a long time. Also, in the depths of a recession, few people will seek ‘voluntary’ redundancy as the chances of employment elsewhere are remote.
I’ve been at the decision making end of this process and I can tell you it really isn’t easy. However, you get to a stage in a business cycle where you either have to shrink the business in order for it to continue ….. or …. you opt to keep on going until the ‘cash’ runs out. Taking the former choice means that a proportion of your staff have to go. taking the latter choice means that they all go eventually.
15 December, 2009 at 4:51 pm #425894I think, Pete, that BA have managed to turn a reasonable profit into a stonking great loss over a period of 18 months or so. This is what is causing the current issue.
Several reasons, but heavy competition from the ‘no frills’ airlines; a collapse of business travel (we hate bankers etc don’t we?); increasingly high “green” taxes imposed by Governement to ‘save he world’; an un-responsive and highly unionised overpaid workforce – and far too many of them as well …… these are some of the more obvious reasons.
So pay the cabin crew two or three times the industry ‘norm’. They”d better save it up because they’ll need it when their current employer goes under.
15 December, 2009 at 12:15 pm #425890This strike – carefully, and indeed cynically, timed for Christmas and to cause the maximum disruption to all of BA’s dwindling band of customers – is a classic example of the street thug who beats you up, puts you in hospital, and then claims that it was all your fault for being on the street in the first place.
Given that BA is currently making a loss of hundreds of millions and its pension fund is in deficit by over £3.7 BILLION – and given that this strike will cost them millions more on top, leading to an increased loss over and above that which is currently predicted ……. I see only one sensible way forward.
The Board of BA should immediately call a Section 97 meeting of its creditors and put the company into creditors voluntary liquidation. This has a number of advantages.
It would fuck the Unite union once and for all; the overpaid and frankly ‘greedy’ staff would be out of a job (and serves them jolly well right too); the airline could release itself from its debt burden and start over as, say, BA (2010) plc; a new and maybe more competent Board odf directors could be appointed.
Maybe the airline could make a fresh beginning with a substantially reduced cost base instead of acting like a ‘dead person walking’. After all if is continues to pile loss upon loss – ultimately liquidation, followed by re-construction, will be its only course of action.
15 December, 2009 at 12:00 pm #425825I suspect Cath that no right minded person (including me BTW) could possibly disagree with you. But this is to miss the point.
The Human Rights Act was conceived by well meaning folks who were intent on correcting what they saw as ‘injustice’ and ‘discrimination’ in society. However, it has become a text book example of the law of unintended consequences – social engineering at its worst.
Unfortunately, convicted felons have the same ‘human rights’ under the law as does the remainder of the law abiding population.So either this law is repealed or it is amended to remove any ‘rights’ from prisoners.
Naturally, any attempt to do so will simply provoke ‘the usual suspects’ to mount marches and street protests etc etc. Thus it will never happen and the likes of baby Peter’s torturer and murderer will continue to enjoy three meals a day and his choice of TV programmes…… whether we all like it or not!!!
14 December, 2009 at 11:07 am #425776@cath 55 wrote:
@forumhostpb wrote:
Still wondering?????
well done for rising above the chat board ‘rivalry’ PB one of the things you have always said is that there is room enough for all the boards and chat on the net……good call for leaving it there!!!
a bit worried tho that PB might be a grown up after all…… :wink:
Well thank you cath … as for being a ‘grown up’ – there’s absolutely no danger of that whatsoever so you can relax.
PS: I suppose that Licky is still wondering eh?
14 December, 2009 at 12:32 am #425774Still wondering?????
14 December, 2009 at 12:26 am #425803Taking on board minim’s point (and yes even that of Gazlan) … let’s agree that the war against Saddam was ‘wrong’. Call it ‘regime change’; call it a war to remove WMDs; call it what you like…… but so what anyway??
What’s done is done. Kindly old Uncle Saddam is no more; his henchmen (or most of them) are either in hiding or have been topped; Iraq is an a mess etc etc.
So the enquiry comes up with what we all expect it to – and if it doesn’t there will be howls and screams of “whitewash”…… but so what anyway??
All this so-called enquiry will do amounts to retrospective navel gazing….. rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic if you like. Nothing can or will change as a result of it, we can’t magically reverse history somehow.
It is the perfect example of an exercise in futility.
However, we will all spend millions that we can’t afford on a bunch of lawyers and civil servants so that the chattering classes can say “Told you so”
13 December, 2009 at 12:41 pm #425785@thistle-fem-1964 wrote:
…….I think the one good bowel movement is good one for our over 60 pensioner grumps lol
yea i know im prob gonna die slow painful death , but does this look like a face that cares lolIt would also be an ideal Christmas wish for members of the gay community !!!
13 December, 2009 at 12:28 pm #425819It is said that, after some time has passed, a prisoner gets used to having his food pissed in and spat in every day. Apparently they also get used to daily forcible sodomy.
I expect that the Human Rights nazis will be screaming their lungs out in protest for years to come.
Still never mind, expensive lawyers will always be on hand to defend his ‘rights’ …… and the best bit is – you are all paying for it !!!!!
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