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@pete wrote:
…….. Diana Dors is of course dead
That rather begs the question ….. I wonder what she’d look like now???
Over the years I’ve often wondered about this public grief thing in which people indulge themselves.
I, like many others, find it really difficult if not impossible to get myself all worked up into a lather of wailing, howling and grieving over the death of someone I didn’t actually “know”.
I understand that some people really do cry, weep & wail for hours and light candles at their little shrines to the departed and display all the emotions associated with grieving for a lost loved one. But I also suspect that many don’t really do this stuff – they just say they do, because it is somehow expected of them to appear to publicly grieve – especially over a famous person that has died. The mass public hysteria over Princess Diana is a good example of this.
Maybe they are even driven by “peer pressure” to go along with all this ‘ersatz’ grieving. Just imagine the howls of outrage that would be directed at someone who dared to post on a social networking community of some sort or other, that they didn’t really give a stuff that a famous ‘icon’ had died.
Jeez, the’y probably have to change their user name or something equally drastic.
You make some excellent points Jay, as does Sgt Pepper and others, and I largely agree with them.
OK I’m not a fan of his music – although millions are – and I didn’t find his incessant crotch grabbing dance moves particularly attractive, although these ‘dance’ moves clearly added to the overall effect he created. A sort of showmanship if you prefer.
As does Pete, I find his posthumous elevation to a world wide icon status somewhat nauseating. Yes he was a highly talented musician and performer with a frankly rather disturbing lifestyle.
I guess for me the sadness is in the already circling vultures ready to gorge on his corpse through lawsuits for ludicrously large sums of money coupled with those who now conveniently forget the humiliating finger pointing when he was alive (Wacko Jacko etc etc) and want to portray him as some sort of sainted genius.
The losers will be those fans that paid thousands for a seat at his O2 ‘final’ concert via E-Bay etc and who will most certainly lose most if not all of their money.
I have to agree with the underlying point in Pete’s above post. Fact is that during Jackson’s latter years he was derided by the general public, not only in his own country, but across the world.
His ludicrous denial of having had and facial surgery, despite the ever increasingly bizarre ‘look’ of his face. His journey from an ‘Afro-Caribbean’ look to something that was almost female in the delicacy of his sculpted features has been documented in millions of photos and made him the subject of much derision.
The several incidents of alleged kiddy fiddling; his admission on worldwide TV that sharing his bed with several young boys was an act of pure love and not at all sexual; the enormous payments made to those that pursued complaints against him for his alleged unsavoury sexual practices; all these things are there in the public record for the whole world to see.
The current spate of allegations that he was addicted to ‘prescription drugs’ (pethidine amongst others) doesn’t come as much of a surprise to many.
Yes he was a good all round entertainer in his day, although by all accounts he went ‘off the boil’ several years ago. Indeed serious doubts have been expressed that he would fail to honour his final O2 series of concerts in spite of having been paid an enormous advance.
So by all means praise his music, assuming that you really liked it, but let’s not lose sight of the deeply troubled and flawed person behind it and make him into some sort of icon for our times – like for example Princess Diana.
Current news has it that he died of a “cardiac arrest” and was in a deep coma when the paramedics went to his home earlier on today. Apparently all attempts at resicitation failed.
Rumours are already circulating that his “cardiac arrest” was possibly in some way drugs connected.
There have also been persistent rumours circulating for some time now that he has been “unwell” recently and that there have been doubts as to whether his comeback tour would take place as scheduled or be cancelled or even deferred to next year.
Well now we know that it won’t take place at all.
Yes …. giving him a new identity is quite wrong. His name and address should be published in full, along with his release date, so that anybody can simply pop round and kill him whenever they feel like it.
I agree with you there Cas. this “abnormality of mind” is a classic lawyer’s defence when some violent little hoodlum (or even adult) smashes somebody’s life or even kills them.
But I guess if they weren’t allowed some sort of defence, then we may as well have trial by tabloid newspaper eh? (The Sun ses you done it so you must ‘ve done it yeah? We’ll print yer name & address so the boys can go round and smash you up).
Publishing his name (and address?) in the Media wouldn’t alter the awfulness of what he did. However, it may well allow some people to take the law into their own hands.
BTW this boy’s defence to murder is that he suffered from “an abnormality of mind” such that he wasn’t fully or legally responsible for his actions.
Maybe it’s rob 50 then???
It’s always nice when someone takes the time and trouble to explain the origin and meaning of English slang, isn’t it?
