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@mrs_teapot wrote:
well one consequence is you might not be able to collect benefits gaz … well if you don’t exist because your birth wasn’t registered makes sense…. but I bet people find a way to prove their existence when it comes to money being doled out.
Teapot
How about something of relevance ? :? :roll:
This is my land, the land i was born upon. Tell me, what is the penalty should any person refuse to register a birth in this country. You don’t need to spoon feed me anything, you can attempt to supply me with information to support your non-sense !
@jen_jen wrote:
You have the absolute natural right to be free of this monotony, no-one has taken that away from you, just as you have the absolute right to provide for yourself in whatever way you see fit within the laws of this land. Self sufficiency, living off the land instead of handouts, and bartering doesn’t seem to be your thing though. Have you thought of joining a self-sufficient commune? They can be found if you really want to be free of this monotony, but I suspect you’ll just be swapping one monotony for another.
Absolute non-sense . . . Show me a single commune set free from the statutory rubbish legislated by suit wearing thieves. . . Show me!! Tell me where a single piece of land in this country that has not been taken under Government control . . Show me !!
” DEBT “ :roll:
You people really do move with leaps and bounds. . .
Let me tell you, people have been robbed for centuries in this country, robbed not only of their natural Sovereignity, but even the Sovereignity professed by the monarch, we have been sold down the river into a corporate system set up to enslave each and every one of us . . . Now you may choose to be content with that and that is your natural right . . . It has been made impossible to survive without subscription to a system that has removed and continues to remove your natural right to be free from this monotony. Not a single one of you here can tell me otherwise, if you can give a legitimate response then i welcome it and will study it for all it is worth.
@(f)politics? wrote:
if you are in a personal circumstance to be able to make that decision yes sure, but i wouldnt borrow or even take money from someone without a dam good reason too, and that good reason in the case of all benefits should be as a temporary crutch for survival no more
Then you will agree with me when i say that each of us have our own interpretation of what survival consists of, i won’t attempt to define what you mean because it is simply not possible.
@(f)politics? wrote:
i am not talking abt one offs where a single parent may starve for 1 week to give something to their child, i am talking in general and going from the link that was pasted and these ppl seem to be able to regularly do this which for me says they are getting too much from the benefits system. And the fact Harman can call them heroes is ridiculous which was the whole point of this thread its not heroic at all. Although i get what ur saying and admire those that would do almost anything to feed their own but it shouldnt be from the purses of others, there is nothing godly or heroic abt that.
And that is a matter for ones own conscience and attitude don’t you think?
@sarah 30 wrote:
:roll: It wasn’t meant to be a religious discussion.
Given we are governed by legislators and monarchs that swear an oath to the Almighty, i might suggest you emigrate
@(f)politics? wrote:
As for involving god into the arguement, god set to work and created, he placed adam into the garden of eden to tend the garden, he made adam, he was created to fill several vocations he was a worker, it is part of his creation for humanity. he wants us to work and work with integrity, this in my opinion is how i interpret gods or the bibles choice for us.
And where does usury fit into your sense of biblical thinking ?
Well given we do not know the circumstances of these claimants then i stick by what i say. If they qualify within the law and legislation, you or any other has any right in deciding what they choose to spend their money on.
At this time of year many single parents will happily go without themselves to create a happy festive time for their children, do these parents fall under the remit of your description ? Many will also fall victim to the ” loan sharks ” that prey on such unfortunates, creating debt for themselves. And these loan sharks able to carry out their transactions perfectly within the co~ckeyed laws that these legislators create.
Best not to judge when not in command of all the facts i would suggest.
