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@forumhostpb wrote:

I can understand that ‘veggies’ don’t like to eat meat etc …. but WHY do they have to make vegetarian food look as if it is real meat ???

If it isn’t meat … then surely you could simply make it look like vegetable matter and not have to mimic meat.

I guess it’s just difficult to think of more forms for food to take. I think those sort of dinners are made as meat subsitutes. Lots of things I make at home don’t mimic meat. I guess the other reason is so veggies arent’ left out. When I was younger bbqs etc. were really boring but now I can have burgers / sausages etc. if I like. I also make halloumi kebabs and things.

I’ve had this conversation (and many more offensive ones!!!) lots of times btw – why does it bother you? I don’t mind what other people eat, it’s up to them.

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For me, I don’t like eating dead animals, but I quite like the taste of lasagne, sausages etc. I’d just rather it wasn’t animal carcuss!

Sorry to be blunt, but you asked!

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Done :D make sure you keep us up to date, yeah?

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@butterflyangel wrote:

I, myself feel a little knocked sideways now and a bit useless after the alleged truth of the non-payout for the Ripper. I dont know what I can do next because it is all down to Nick now. I know that I got this started but I feel like a spare part now.

Ah, I see. Well, don’t underestimate how much it probably means to him to know you are there, and behind him all the way. I’m sure he doesn’t see you as a spare part.

I was thinking about you when I was doing the dishes earlier (you sounded so sad in your previous post), and I still think Nick’s story should be told. Women’s magazines might interested in your experience and how your life has changed as a result. Papers like the Mail love stories about thugs. The weekend supplements on the broadsheets often have articles about people unusual experiences – The Guardian’s is called ‘My Experience and you can e-mail in the story easily. I know you’d only get small payments for these, but it would be something

I also wondered (and I’m sorry if you’re offended by this) whether you had any counselling or support groups or anything. The wound obviously runs deeper than any physical scar, and I wonder if it would help to talk one-to-one with someone about how you and Nick feel, or to meet others who are in a similar position. Just a thought anyway.

All the best, and as I say, I’m sure the gesture of your support means much more than the result.

Lx

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@butterflyangel wrote:

OK Sword, thanks. Just feel ,like I’ve come to a dead end with this, and banging my head against a brick wall.

Hey, I don’t think you’ve come to a dead end, just gone a little off track :) . Sounds like you really love each other, and you are very supportive of each others hopes and dreams, that’s got to be worth something hasn’t it? Don’t give up, you have a really good case there. Are your local papers willing to run the story anyway even without the PS angle? It’s a good human interest story.

Why don’t you follow steps outlined by PB and take it from there?

Another thing I do when I’m feeling really down is try to think of what the minimum is that would make me happy. If I look to the future, is there a place I’d like to be in two / three years time. I guess in your case you might like for Nick to be doing a job he loves again – you mentioned doing a nursing diploma. How much financial support would you need to do the course? What is the minimum you can live on for that period to get you back on your feet? Can you think of anyway to get there? There might be charities he can apply to for educational bursaries (PM me if you want help applying to them) he’d certainly have a good case. So, maximise your income, minimise your expenditure and get on that course, at least then you are doing something positive for your family.

I know it’s really :evil: when you feel like life is just one kick after another, but taking some practical steps yourself and accepting responsibility for your own happiness can make you feel a lot better and help you to move on from this. It sounds like Nick would benefit enormously by doing a job he enjoys again, and that fulfilment is something money can’t buy.

Good luck.

Lx

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@butterflyangel wrote:

Have you got nothing better to do. Would major tabloids, radio stations and MP’s put their jobs on the line. I think it’s you who cannot see what is obviously a hoax. None of the so-called press release makes sense. If you look at it properly there are no links to go to, it just looks like a mocked up Word document that anybody with any computer knowledge could do. Let this lie, and let us get on with what we are doing.

Butterflyangel, I hoped my post would get across how sympathetic I feel to you and your family. I hoped to point you in the right direction of getting more compensation, because at the moment your appeal has gone off track in my opinion and you risk undermining it. I suggest you call Broadmoor or ask your lawyer to do so and attempt to establish the truth.

I won’t say any more, and this is obviously causing you extra hurt, I just think you deserve to know the truth. I hope you get to the bottom of this.

Once more, good luck to your family.

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I guess people in that kind of state just think it would be for the best? It’s horrific and tragic. It goes totally against the natural order of things. The trouble with this kind of depression is that one of the symptoms is the inability to recognise when you need help or how to get help, so you (generic you, not *you*!), end up going to these kinds of drastic lengths to find a way out.

Poor kids, and poor relatives that are left grieving.

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Hi Butterflyangel,

First of all, can I just say how terribly sad your partner’s case is? What a tragedy for the NHS to lose a committed paramedic like that. No one should have to encounter violence and risk permenant disability in their line of work. I’m appalled by the compensation he’s been offered – it’s an insult! As you say, your partner has to totally rethink his whole life thanks to these thugs.

However, I do suspect that it’s untrue that Peter Sutcliffe has received any compensation payment, never mind one so large. I injured my leg badly back in 2002 and was awarded £6.5k for a permenant injury. Since then, I’ve kept my eye on compensation payments generally, and the level of payments in this country is really lousy.

If you doubt the authenticity of the press release, you could go directly through Broadmoor’s switchboard and ask to speak the Head of Communications (or whoever is named on the press release). If they have never heard of him, you’ll know it’s fake.

Have you looked into what kind of payments other people have received for similar injuries? I know it’s tempting to compare Nick with Peter Sutcliffe but maybe it would be more prudent to use actual stats provided by the courts rather than the tabloids. Unfortunately, it can take a long time for them to put right their errors, and can be very costly to challenge each and every incorrect report – not the best use of NHS funds.

Call Broadmoor, at least then you’ll know one way or the other.

Good luck in getting more money too, I hope you and your family have a very happy future.

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