Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
At least he didn’t put it up an orifice and then set fire to it by mistake.
Hamsters are the new guinea pigs :(
She has a right to be herd.
OK… i am going to try again
Firstly, we are talking about people who may or may not have serious mental issues. But if they are mentally disturbed then that is taken into account both in sentencing and also in whether they are safe to release into society.
People with mental illness who commit crimes, for the sake of this particular approach to altering the sentencing guidelines, need to be placed on one side.
Let us, for the sake of argument, assume that they are “not” mentally ill. They are disturbed, but they are considered by the medical profession to have capacity. Erm.. that kind of means that they are cognitive enough to know what they did and to understand that it was wrong and against the law.
OK… then, discount the family and relatives. If someone commits a crime of the kind we are discussing, the family cannot be considered. I know that in other cases, the dependency of relatives can be an issue where sentencing is concerned, but leniency because of a dependant relative would just give people the excuse to commit crime.
So.. we are trying to think of a way to sentence criminals of serious crime against babies and children which will be a deterrant to others. In the badly thought out post that I deleted, I mentioned the fact that the perpetrators of such crimes could have been committing crimes from the time they themselves were children. We know children of 10 and 11 can be responsible for terrible things. They can also be subjected to terrors.
It is the responsibility of the Judge when handing out sentencing to take into account previous crime, background, reports from psychiatrists etc etc. I don’t think we can go into each and every possibility. What we have to do is to work out a way to word a request that serious and repeated torture and abuse of children should be punished in the most extreme manner possible within our sentencing guidelines in an effort to disuade others from committing similar crimes. PB said that they are all afraid of being caught. I actually believe that they DO NOT THINK THEY WILL BE.
We need to make them afraid to do what they want to do.
Let’s get back on track shall we. Perverted prats in a chat room are just the tip of an ever increasing iceberg.
actually, am deleting that post as it was a very poorly constructed argument to some of the comments on this thread.
If they have a mental disability it is taken into account when passing judgment. But many many people commit atrocities because they want to, because they can, and because they don’t fear the consequences.
Found this ……one of my favourites from The Stranglers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub4rKDkL53s&feature=related
:D 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1N27phf3ds&feature=related
and the boys themselves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEuyLJKG_acLondon’s Calling – The Clash
London calling to the faraway towns
Now war is declared – and battle come down
London calling to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard,you boys and girls
London calling, now don’t look to us
Phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust
London calling, see we ain’t got no swing
‘Cept for the ring of that truncheon thingCHORUS
The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in
Meltdown expected, the wheat is growing thin
Engines stop running, but I have no fear
Cause London is drowning and I, live by the riverLondon calling to the imitation zone
Forget it, brother, you can go at it alone
London calling to the zombies of death
Quit holding out – and draw another breath
London calling – and I don’t wanna shout
But while we were talking I saw you nodding out
London calling, see we ain’t got no high
Except for that one with the yellowy eyesCHORUS x2
The ice age is coming, the sun’s zooming in
Engines stop running, the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear error, but I have no fear
Cause London is drowning and I, I live by the riverNow get this
London calling, yes, I was there, too
An’ you know what they said? Well, some of it was true!
London calling at the top of the dial
And after all this, won’t you give me a smile?
London CallingI never felt so much alike, like-a, like-a…
The ice age is coming :wink:
I think everyone who moans about guides should apply to be one!
Must I Paint You a Picture – Billy Bragg
It’s bad timing and me
We find a lot of things out this way
And there’s you
A little black cloud in a dress
The temptation
To take the precious things we have apart
To see how they work
Must be resisted for they never fit together again
If this is rain let it fall on me and drown me
If these are tears let them fallChorus:
Must i paint you a picture
About the way that i feel
You know my love for you is strong, girl
You know my love for you is realIt took a short walk and a talk
To change the rules of engagement
While you searched frantically for reverse and them claiming
That virtue never tested is no virtue at all
And so i lost my ignorance
And now the bells across the river chime out your name
I look across to them againAll your friends said come down
It will never fly
And on that imperfect day
We threw it all away
Crisis after crisis, with such intensity
This would never happen if we lived by the seaMost important decisions in life
Are made between two people in bed
I found that out at my expense
And when i see you
You just turn around and walk away like we never met
Oh we used to be so brave
I dreamt the world stopped turning as we climbed the hill
I dreamt impossible dreams that we were lovers still
