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Firefox user and proud.
There not trying to map every detail of my life, and they at least try to give me tools to stop other people doing the same.
It’s a jungle out there, and in an imperfect, information led world, I trust Mozilla more than the others.
Good post Wordie.
Just a thought. Let’s judge the SBL by what it does and not its name.
There is nothing wrong with having an organisation to defend the interests of a group of people, in fact our democracy is based precisely on the existence of such groups. Their very existence does not suggest any anti-white racism. Their actions however may well.
With regard to football, there is no point in suggesting that racism doesn’t exist. I may disagree with people’s tactics in fighting that, but groups to represent black players (or any other group) are not wrong in principle.
The issue is often to do with inclusivity. The English Defence League and the Scottish National Party both seek to represent specific communities in the UK. I disagree strongly with the aims of both groups, and believe in a vibrant, diverse, united Great Britain with stronger local/regional government.
The SNP is however an inclusive party seeking to represent all people in Scotland, whether they are Scottish by birth or ethnicity, black, asian, or even, heavens forbid, English. However flawed their political agenda, they seek to represent a diverse Scotland. The EDL on the other hand are an organistion trying to defend their idea of Englishness by attacking other people for not being English enough. The SNP is inclusive, the EDL seeks to be exclusive.
From what has been posted here the SBL accepts people of all races who are behind their agenda. Sounds like any other campaigning group to me. Whether we agree with their agenda is another matter.
Seeking to represent a racial or ethnic group doesn’t make you a racist. Peddling hate and messages about whether people who are living and working in this country perfectly legally, should be allowed to remain here or influence British life, just because they are a little too black/muslim/celtic for you is racist.
We’re all sophisticated enough to work that out. I don’t think the SBL will be adversely affecting any white person’s human rights in the near future.
And if they do, we have plenty of legislation to deal with it.
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That’s nothing. I can turn wine into water without using a kettle or a tea bag!
:lol:
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
I’m glad I don’t watch this programme if Farage is on there.
Politically, he is a non entity.
I like Farage, but don’t like Harman.
We know you don’t like Harriet Harman. In fact judging by other statements, you seem quite sensitive on the issue.
I think it’s playground love. I think you might quite fancy her. Did she spurn your advances?
You probably fancy Shami Chakrabarti as well. What’s not to like? Impressive strong woman, well presented, intelligent, knows her own mind, takes no crap from powerful men.
Are there any impressive powerful women with a high public profile in UKIP, the party you refuse to join?
:wink:
@terry wrote:
Why would he want to be a Parliamentary MP when all the decision-making is done in Brussels? Farage is in the business of getting the British public a better deal and that seperates him from the majority of politicians who just want a better deal for themselves.
How exactly is he doing that Terry?
Who are his allies?
And why is nobody listening to him?
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
Hmmm.
I think I might try to strike up a conversation with a complete stranger on the train home this evening.
That’s bound to get me certified as no doubt they will think I’m an axe murderer! :P
Will the ‘complete stranger’ understand English..?
Is your question rooted in the same belief set that lead you to want to “Give Britain back to the British” on another thread?
Just asking like.
8)
@terry wrote:
There are so many things I’d do. Giving Britain back to the British would be a priority. And then I’d make Parliament accountable to the taxpayer. Tony Blair would flee the country and if Gordon Brown had any sense so would he.
“Giving Britain back to the British”? What are you referring to?
How would you make Parliament more accountable?
I am assuming that the Blair and Brown thing is said tongue in cheek, and that no would would actually have to leave the country if you become PM.
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@panda12 wrote:
I asked a friend of a friend why he used the word paki.
He said its an abbreviation of Pakistani.
He explained it’s no different from calling British people Brits or Australian people Aussies or American people yanks or Japanese people Japs.
What do you think?
It’s all in the context. It’s like our recent thread on golliwogs. Nice doll – potentially dodgy word.
Any word can be used as an insult and it’s usually pretty clear when it is. A black guy might refer to his best bud, who is also black, as a “bad assed nigga” and be complementary, whilst a white cop using the same word when undertaking a stop and search might clearly be using it as an insult. Likewise the Australians call themselves Aussies, but you could easily use it as a term of abuse if you wanted to.
Because we all know that the term paki is most frequently used as a term of abuse, people should really be aware that using the word is likely to cause offence. Having said that where I grew up there were people who used it to describe an Asian owned shop but at the same time thought that using it to refer to a person was deeply insulting.
Personally I wouldn’t use the word.
