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It’s all about the messages you send and who, if anyone, you want to punish.
Prostitution is going to happen whatever we do. Making the people who do it into criminals doesn’t help clean up the streets. Better to regulate or de-criminalise – or at least think carefuly about how we use existing laws, like “living off immoral earnings”.
Big difference between someone who exploits large numbers of vulnerable people working as prostitutes, and someone who rents out rooms to get girls off the streets. The laws we have potentially treat sex traffickers and people who provide services to sex workers exactly the same. And all sex workers are not poor down trodden people, many enjoy their jobs and the flexibility it gives them, and do not feel forced to do the work in any way.
I am am concerned that legalising protitution sends a message that society approves of people being forced to make a living that way – a bit like decriminalising drugs might send the message that drugs are OK.
On balance though I think taking the criminality out of protitution is the best solution. We could then concentrate on the real crimes like kidnapping, slavery, extortion and protection rackets, which are part of the shadier end of the business, while letting other people get on with providing a service without Police harassment. We could also support the the more vulnerable, whose lives are spiralling out of control, who need a criminal conviction like a hole in the head.
a love of fruit salads..
Well OK then. Just a wee cuddle. Seeing as it’s you.
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Hailstones!
@kent f OBE wrote:
Outspoken people are not always truth telling people. Lots just have big gobs.
Off to shut my gob then.
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Bin Laden lived by the sword and, surprise, surprise, that’s how he died. If you take that role you can expect consequences at some point.
I cannot however celebrate the death of any human being. The American public reaction was disturbing. I am at least pleased that we did not emulate it over here, despite 9/11 also being one of our biggest terrorist loses of life. I do however feel for the families of victims who feel a sense of relief that justice has been done in some small way, even if it doesn’t bring back their loved ones.
However just as disturbing as people tastelessly celebrating in the streets, is the American President choosing for political reasons that he wanted Bin Laden dead, despite the risk of creating a martyr. Western Europeans are not more moral when they tend to imprison rather than kill. It is common sense. A man rots in prison, you can say that it is justice and he is more likely to be forgotten, or at the very least merely pitied. A man dies in a hail of bullets however . . . . .
And why all of this moral outrage about Pakistan not knowing, and it being OK for the Americans to illegally invade their country to kill Bin Laden. Bet you don’t know everyone who lives within 5 miles of you. He was very discreet and it was hardly central Islamabad. The British army do not know everyone who lives within 10 miles of Salisbury Plain – however smart you think they are. Hell, I’m not even convinced that Obama hasn’t known where Bin Laden is for ages but only choose to kill him now, cos it suited him.
What good will come of it, knowing what people in the world already think of the Americans, and by implications, us? Precious little. Martyrdom of the figurehead? Continued terrorism because Al Quaeda is not a single group but a uniting concept for many groups? Will it stop impressionable youths from juming on the bandwagon of the fake jihad? The killing will only continue.
Sorry for Bin Laden and sad he is dead? No. Not even slightly.
Certain that killing him was the right thing to do, either morally or in practical terms? Unfortunately it’s still a “No”. The world is not a safer place.
Just read this thread and it is one of the best I have read for a long time on JC. Really good debate, with some really funny top notch humour thrown in.
And people wonder what has happened to JC?
@catlady1606 wrote:
:lol: says the **lovely lady** wiv the choc-ice :lol: xx
Hey – I just noticed. Is that pixie/elf thingie in your postings Cheryl Cole by any chance?
I’m typing messages on the Boards – stupid.
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@kent f OBE wrote:
Hoping I pass my grading tomorrow :?
Was thinking about a warm cup of tea but now I am thinking “what is a grading?” and “did you pass it?”
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