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@gazlan wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@gazlan wrote:
You know me . . . Going no-where fast :lol:
PS~ See you there :wink:
*taps paw impatiently
I’m waiting.
Errm . . i’ll have a tuna bake with side salad :wink:
I ordered you bamboo shoots with water chesnuts and plain chow mein.
Devoting resources to fishing causes the rape and pillage of the seas and contributes to the mass, agonsing deaths of thousands of marine creatures, and meat production merely increases world starvation by giving land over to animal production and feed when it could be better used to grow crops to feed starving third world countries.
Best to bypass the “middle man” and eat shoots and leaves. :D
@panda12 wrote:
@yorkypaul wrote:
Hope you can view this page of pics
Paul
xxYou grow bamboo plants?
When can I come round for a taste? :D
Love, Panda (starving).
@yorkypaul wrote:
Hope you can view this page of pics
Paul
xxYou grow bamboo plants?
When can I come round for a taste? :D
Love, Panda.
@gazlan wrote:
You know me . . . Going no-where fast :lol:
PS~ See you there :wink:
*taps foot impatiently
I’m waiting.
@terry wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
You make it sound as if Blair’s was being machiavellian in the way he formed “New” Labour. There was nothing sinister – it was natural progression.
And let’s not forget, he only had to beat a Conservative party led by boring John Major to win the election. How difficult was that? :roll:
Not difficult in 1997 but don’t forget, major beat Kinnock in 1992 despite the polls originally suggesting otherwise.
@terry wrote:
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
The only reason Labour gained power in the first place in the 1990s was due to Tony Blair recognising the sceptism existing between business and the City with the arcane mechanics of Trade Unionism. By promoting a new, centre – leaning socialism he, and his New Labour strategy went a long way in bridging this gap which for so long kept Labour from power.. recognising the inherent failure in exclusively leftist political mantra and promoting modern, market based dynamics that also include the basic cultural tenets of socialism as best they could.
Don’t you think Labour “gaining power in the first place” may have been due – ever so slightly – to the British public being fed up of 18 years of Conservative government?
It’s just a thought…. :roll:
By jove, Terry!
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head!
Sgt Pepper:
Anyone with an ounce of common would know that after 18 years of Tory rule, “old” Labour would never appeal to the majority of voters again!
A whole new generation grew up under Thatcher and Major – gone was the “sharing, caring” attitude found in many tight knit communities and in came the “I’m all right mate fcu k you” class perpetrated by the creation of “wealth” – a whole class that could afford to buy a property (council house) and few shares in newly privatised companies.
This generation was never going to vote for “traditional” Labour values – I doubt if even Blair and Brown could ever adopt traditional Labour values – they were from the wrong generation!
Creation of this new class meant that partisan alignment, so prominent in the 1960s, was dead.
You make it sound as if Blair’s was being machiavellian in the way he formed “New” Labour. There was nothing sinister – it was natural progression!
Peel did the same in the 1834 with The Tamworth Manifesto. It’s a form of political evolution, not skulduggery.
@Sgt Pepper wrote:
A curious one.. Many see this as a step backwards for the British Labour Party.
Older brother David received the most votes from MPs and ordinary Labour Party members.
Ed won thanks to the huge vote he got from the Trade Unions.The only reason Labour gained power in the first place in the 1990s was due to Tony Blair recognising the sceptism existing between business and the City with the arcane mechanics of Trade Unionism. By promoting a new, centre – leaning socialism he, and his New Labour strategy went a long way in bridging this gap which for so long kept Labour from power.. recognising the inherent failure in exclusively leftist political mantra and promoting modern, market based dynamics that also include the basic cultural tenets of socialism as best they could.
Third Way politics as it had come to be known.Trade Unions have never really forgiven Mr. Blair (or his followers) for this.
Trade Unionism gave birth to The Labour Party.. but like an over protective mother, it stifled it’s horizons and potential on many occasions, often for selfish reasons
This result could be one of those tragic repressions.
Maybe not?Oh and I believe Ed is a Leeds Utd Supporter….
God help you all!!:roll:
The Trade Unions did not give birth to the Labour Party. Giving more working class people the vote gave birth to the Labour Party as a party to cater for their needs. The Trade Unions naturally allied with this new party as it represented the needs of their members.
Besides, Keir Hardie was a Methodist Preacher not a Trade Union man – hence the quote: “Socialism in Britain owed more to Methodism than Marx,” by Morgan Philips in the 1950s.
@cass_2000 wrote:
Anyone got any good tips on how to deal with this monthly torture us women have to deal with? :lol: I get alot of backache and cramp like pain, and although painkillers tend to ease the majority of it I don’t like the idea of taking them every month… And of course being female I can’t just put up with the pain before anyone suggests it :lol:
Pretend you have manflu instead.
Will I mourn the Labour party? Nope. I intend to pi ss on its grave, dig it up, set fire to it and bury it again.
QM – is that before or after you masturbate over Dave Cameron’s pic? :D
