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20 August, 2010 at 4:31 pm #446105
@quiet_man wrote:
@gazlan wrote:
My little association with some of the local youth recently, tells me that these kids are right on the ball…They know far more than they ever did, why ?…Because of the technology available to them, they can now witness virtually live, activities and expressions from around the world in seconds….. They are indeed waking up, they have discovered that it`s not just them that think -people were not put on this earth to be manipulated and enslaved by an hereditary eliteism, they are aware that those who profess social justice and equality do so with one hand in the till and the other hand signing money generating statutes to further corporate requests- …. GTFO..
Let me tell you, the stuff them kids are smoking out there has the power to bend the most intellectual of minds, the concern is which way the mind is bent… These were sensible kids with their fingers on the pulse… The world and all of it`s dirt is wide open now for their scrutiny, dont be alarmed when they turn round and tell you to shut the f~uck upIf you wish to delude yourself that kids are getting smarter rather than exams getting easier, knock yourself out.
here’s a nice graph for you.
Once again, rather like tractor stats in the Soviet Union, the glorious march towards genetic perfection and the source of all knowledge continues apace. At least according to the numbers.
A hearty well done to everyone who took them and especially well done to those who are heading to the University of their choice. Unfortunately you’re always going to be tarred, on the evidence of the graph above, that “ours” were harder than “yours”.
I looked at your graph. What it actually shows me is that in the 60s though to the mid 80s, A Levels at grade A hovered around the 9% mark. From the late 80s there was an increase up to about 12 – 13 %.
Under John Major this then increased to over 15 %.
Sharp, year on year increases occurred during the Blair and Brown years, rising to 28% this year.
So what that tells me is that investment in education under Blair and Brown seems to have worked and produced better educated A Level students.
Of course you won’t see it that way – you appear to be somewhat bitter and twisted and want to blame the Labour govt for making exams easier.
But hang on! The increases started under Thatcher, then continued under Major.
So it looks like your beloved Tories started the trend of easier A Levels, huh?
:D/20 August, 2010 at 12:22 am #446099@toybulldog wrote:
I see what you’re saying panda but in truth . . . .
Today’s kids are Thick to the Power of 10, and I don’t even blame them for that. As if they’d even understand . . . . . . . .
Forget about the commercial realities that pay their wages – they’re still complaining that mum hasn’t arrived to pick them up at the end of the shift. You’ll find that most firms can put up with general gormlessness or a very low retardation level if some essence of enthusiam remained, but it’s increasingly difficult to even discern that.
The hopeless generation . . . . . . . . . .
I think every generation has its hopeless element but it’s applied to the whole. No doubt my generation was the hopeless generation by my parents standards and their generation hopeless as well by their parent’s standards.
Problem is it’s the previous generation that begats the next so as I don’t have kids, I’m not responsible so I guess if QM, Poli and you have kids then you’re the ones to blame for the gormless hopelessness of this generation. :wink:
20 August, 2010 at 12:00 am #446097@(f)politics? wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
So Poli and QM – your experinces mean that this is the general consensus? :roll:
I think what these kids are going through is called growing up and maturing. Now unlike you two (who it seems were just born old and responsible) this is going to take time. As they get older these kids will become more mature and more responsible and develop a stronger work ethic. Judging by my own progress, this happens around about now, lol.
As Queen sung:
“When we were kids when we were young
Thing seemed so perfect – you know
The days were endless we were crazy we were young
The sun was always shinin – we just lived for fun”I’ll let you know when Grumpy Old Men and Grumpy Old Women are recruiting again. :D
And you’re opinion of course is the general consensus too i guess! and having a good attitude and respect for people doesnt mean i am born old and responsible merely i was brought up to have respect and not expect something for nothing, but yet again you seem to think you know who i am and what i do and have done and turn an opinion personal because it doesnt suit your ideas :roll:
My general consensus is based upon the fact that as QM pointed out, A Level grades have increased for something like the 28th year in a row.
Now if that’s not true, that is some lie.
My general consensus is also based on the well known fact that people become more mature and responsible as they grow older – teenagers are renowned for being irresponsible, rash, fun loving etc but as they get older, they mature and settle down.
And I don’t assume I know who you are and what you have done except to say you have no SOH and are easily riled and exercise by jumping to conclusions. Careful you don’t sprain something as it takes longer to heal at your age.
:wink:19 August, 2010 at 10:48 pm #446095So Poli and QM – your experinces mean that this is the general consensus? :roll:
I think what these kids are going through is called growing up and maturing. Now unlike you two (who it seems were just born old and responsible) this is going to take time. As they get older these kids will become more mature and more responsible and develop a stronger work ethic. Judging by my own progress, this happens around about now, lol.
As Queen sung:
“When we were kids when we were young
Thing seemed so perfect – you know
The days were endless we were crazy we were young
The sun was always shinin – we just lived for fun”I’ll let you know when Grumpy Old Men and Grumpy Old Women are recruiting again. :D
19 August, 2010 at 3:38 pm #446093@quiet_man wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@quiet_man wrote:
It’s official. Britain is cleverer than last year. And last year we were cleverer than the year before. And the year before that…. well, you get the picture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11012369So, if our kids are achieving record results every year why is it that with each new crop of bright young things that start their working career at my place of employment seem dumber than the last?
Usually they are at university and work part time to keep them in beer and fags. I have the misfortune to encounter them when I start on the night shift as they, being part time, are on the backshift.
I can honestly say, hand on heart, that as each year passes the youngsters that flood onto the job market get dumber and dumber as well as lazier and lazier.
And the result of a Labour education is all too evident as the ‘everyone is a winner’ ethos that permeated the education system is written all over their shiny wee faces when they are told, probably for the first time, that their work is not good enough or that they are not fast enough or whatever.
They have never been challenged for performance in their lives. And when they reach the real world it’s a total shock when the cold, hard truth is laid out before them.
Tesco mentioned this last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8306013.stmBut, I suppose Labour wanted dumb kids because they grow into dumb adults. Dumb adults = Labour core voters.
Ah! The Quiet Man speaks his gibberish again!
No doubt these “dumb” kids will shine once they finish uni and get into their chosen profession.
After all, no one puts any real effort into a dead end job that they just do to get beer and fag money. It’s just going through the motions – if these kids are brought in just for beer and fag money, it strikes me that you can’t really be involved in a challenging job.
They probably don’t want to “shine” in case they show the old timers like you up.
Lol ever the idiot eh panda, pretending that things can only get better, when in fact they only got worse as they always do under a Labour government. I can see in you that their education standards actually worked, you believe that these kids are smart, yet 3 of the backshift can barely read and I doubt any employer is going to give them a job other than packing boxes even with a uni education. Face it your socialist pals wrecked the economy, destroyed education standards and fooled mugs like you into thinking they were clever doing it.
Oh and here you go, the maths exam from 1952 three papers on Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry – total time: 6 and a half hours.
http://www.burtongrammar.co.uk/?cat=114
Allowing for conversion to modern day measurements, any youngster care to take a stab at these? Oh and no calculators allowed.
What’s that? You don’t understand the questions :lol:
LOL @ can barely read!
You obviously never went to uni – to get in you need to have passed A Levels at least so how do you pass them without being able to read?
As for your maths paper – no good to me I’m afraid as I’m a history graduate.
And no, I didn’t grow up under a Labour govt – unfortunately for me my education was all under the Tories in the 80s and early 90s. We had to share text books (that’s if the school had text books) sports equipment was old and mainly broken and the school buildings were in dire need of repair.
In contrast, my nephew completed his education under the last Labour govt – his school had brilliant facilities and is a centre of excellence for IT and Sport.
Still, your education did you the world of good, didn’t it? Developed you into a well educated, rounded individual with an objective mind which it seems amounts to reading The Sun and the Daily Mail and believing everything they write!
Gee, QM – you must have one squashed up face due to having to sit on it so often in order to talk out of your ar*e as much as you do.
19 August, 2010 at 12:11 pm #446091@quiet_man wrote:
It’s official. Britain is cleverer than last year. And last year we were cleverer than the year before. And the year before that…. well, you get the picture.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11012369So, if our kids are achieving record results every year why is it that with each new crop of bright young things that start their working career at my place of employment seem dumber than the last?
Usually they are at university and work part time to keep them in beer and fags. I have the misfortune to encounter them when I start on the night shift as they, being part time, are on the backshift.
I can honestly say, hand on heart, that as each year passes the youngsters that flood onto the job market get dumber and dumber as well as lazier and lazier.
And the result of a Labour education is all too evident as the ‘everyone is a winner’ ethos that permeated the education system is written all over their shiny wee faces when they are told, probably for the first time, that their work is not good enough or that they are not fast enough or whatever.
They have never been challenged for performance in their lives. And when they reach the real world it’s a total shock when the cold, hard truth is laid out before them.
Tesco mentioned this last year.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8306013.stmBut, I suppose Labour wanted dumb kids because they grow into dumb adults. Dumb adults = Labour core voters.
Ah! The Quiet Man speaks his gibberish again!
No doubt these “dumb” kids will shine once they finish uni and get into their chosen profession.
After all, no one puts any real effort into a dead end job that they just do to get beer and fag money. It’s just going through the motions – if these kids are brought in just for beer and fag money, it strikes me that you can’t really be involved in a challenging job.
They probably don’t want to “shine” in case they show the old timers like you up.
16 August, 2010 at 6:27 pm #445894@toybulldog wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
Well Man City, for all their millions spent, did well today, didn’t they?
Took and englishman to keep them in the game!
Harry Redknapp said last week he feared not being able to compete because of City’s huge spending power.
Don’t fear Harry, it’s not how much money you have, it’s whether you can make your individuals into a team and Harry’s team made City’s individuals look very ordinary.
They were awfully close to making it into the big boys’ league without a doubt, and may have done so under Hughes. But then you look at the sky blue’s line up on Saturday, with three defensive midfielders – as they’ll have in EVERY away game this season – and then you see why Saudi millions won’t win the title. More like Bore Draw City.
Not with Mancini in charge. And it can’t be that hard to qualify for the Champs League, fgs even Toteen-ham made it.
:?
City will chop and change Managers and buy and buy in an attempt to find the winning formula but as Real Madrid have found out, it doesn’t work that way.
I’m not a spurs fan but what Harry has achieved has been amazing given he doesn’t have the financial clout of City. So it’s all about working with what you have a making a team rather than buying up the best players and trying to accomodate their egos.
15 August, 2010 at 9:32 pm #445830@nemesis wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@balloons wrote:
Mine go by bus anyway :lol: :lol:
Well done! A sensible parent.
I can’t believe how quiet the roads are in the morning when I walk to the train station. It’s like a ghost town.
The govt is missing something here – introdue that tax for parents driving their kids to and from school and the £145b deficet will soon be gone. :lol:
better still make public transport more affordable and reliable
Better still….. walk :)
I don`t drive, we walk everywhere we can, use the bus or train if we can`t walk. We eat healthily (fairly) and my daughter never drops litter. Love the hols, and we swim in the sea not pool :) :)
I thought they stopped making kids with legs these days on the grounds they didn’t need them anymore. :P
15 August, 2010 at 2:16 pm #445827@balloons wrote:
I wouldnt kno i werent born til much l8r panda :D ….I luv them being off dont have to rush round and can spend time with them :D
I love the kids being off school too – means I don’t have to spend time with them.
Boarding school for all kids or teach them at home and keep the roads free! :P
15 August, 2010 at 2:14 pm #445826@thin ice wrote:
@panda12 wrote:
@balloons wrote:
Mine go by bus anyway :lol: :lol:
Well done! A sensible parent.
I can’t believe how quiet the roads are in the morning when I walk to the train station. It’s like a ghost town.
The govt is missing something here – introdue that tax for parents driving their kids to and from school and the £145b deficet will soon be gone. :lol:
better still make public transport more affordable and reliable
Buses would be more reliable if it wasn’t for the roads being jammed with parents driving their kids to and from school and holding them up in traffic jams.
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