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So what do you advocate arsehole? Any criminal that states he wants to contribute to the state and won’t ever be naughty again can be let off? Let alone they might be British and not Afghan. That country may well not be safe right now, doesn’t stop the Blair Govt. sending in British soldiers to be killed though, does it? But by your own admission you are happy for plane hijackers, terrorists, to live and work in our country because they apologise? I knew you were thick scummer, I just didn’t know the depth to which you could show it.

I misinterpreted absolutely nothing, I took you for your word, for what it’s worth… very little. You as ever, spin your words and try to belittle in your very self styled manner. I know you get off on it and I know you realise that anyone that questions you deserves a little of your rhetoric. However you spineless internet scum… your words are typed, they are replied to as you’ve typed and there is NO misinterpretation, just some self styled stuck up twat that really hates to be caught out … grow up scummer.

:lol: By Elvis Presley’s hamburger relish! You have the wits (and face) of someone weaned and raised on pickled parsnips.

I didn’t say misinterpreted, I said misrepresented. You did get an impossibly long rant out of my initial musing of two whole sentences, which, incidentally, contained no malice directed at anyone. It seems if anyone is scum that needs to grow up, it is you.

Now, to your ‘points’. Apostrophes intended. I advocate that these men be allowed to stay here until the situation in Afghanistan resolves itself sufficiently for it to be safe to send them home. I don’t agree that any criminal who says they are sorry be simply let off. The fact that Afghanistan is not safe is the judiciary’s reason for not letting the government send them back. This, according to the initial link, appalls the government. Therefore the government deciding to send soldiers to Afghanistan has no bearing on anything being discussed here. It doesn’t show any double standards or hypocrisy. They are with the boot them home camp. Dr John Reid, the Home Secretary, has called the decision of the law courts “…an abuse of common sense”.

The men were originally convicted and sent to jail but those convictions were quashed. To be honest, their convictions were overturned on a technicality. Even so, seven of the nine men had already served the full terms of their convictions. So, morally and, more importantly, under the law, the men are time served and innocent of any further crime in the UK. They are merely refugees. Britain is a nation governed by law, thank Bob Marley’s bong. We cannot simply ignore the courts when we don’t like their decisions or those decisions are uncomfortable or annoying. I think allowing them to work will simply lessen the burden on the state.

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As I understand it, they were fleeing the Taliban. I wonder if we’d have had as much uproar and tried to deport folk who had hijacked a ‘plane to escape from Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia?

And the fact of the matter is now smartarse, that the Taliban no longer run Afghanistan, so what is stopping us deporting them back to the place where this regime no longer rules? Oh and refreshing to see you agree with hijacking. As I said, perhaps if all ‘oppressed’ citizens hijack a commercial plane, we can take them all on board in Her Majesties merry island of Great Britain. It’s good to see that hijacking isn’t seen as a deterrent in this country. Perhaps we can deport you while we’re at it?

:lol: Straight in with the misrepresentation and aggression. You argue like a mardy little girl.

What is stopping us from deporting these human beings is that the High Court does not, and no sensible person could, consider Afghanistan at this moment in time to be a safe destination, even without the Taliban in formal control. There is both a moral and legal bar, quite rightly in my view, on forcibly sending people against their will into danger.

This being so, bearing in mind your repeatedly advanced distaste for those who ‘sponge’ off the state and the general view (especially on these boards) that immigrants to this country who do so are unwelcome, I am puzzled as to why anyone would want to prevent them from working to support themselves. Would we be happier paying taxes to support them?

At no point did I say in my post I agree with hijacking. I am further curious as to why you felt the need to enclose the word oppressed within apostrophes. Did you mean to imply that Taliban administered Afghanistan was not an oppressive nation? That would be a stretch, I think.

Also, I think you may have had another Del-boy moment: It’s good to see that hijacking isn’t seen as a deterrent in this country. Hijacking as a deterrent to what? Package holidays? A deterrent is a threat made by one party to make a second party think twice about a particular course of action. For example, we could say that the death penalty in the United States is a deterrent to those who might consider murder. Perhaps you meant to say that It’s good to see that hijacking isn’t deterred in (by) this country.

And no. Although it would be good if you would fuck off somewhere else. After all, you don’t seem to like our glorious nation very much and your absence would certainly improve the nation’s average IQ. :D

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As I understand it, they were fleeing the Taliban. I wonder if we’d have had as much uproar and tried to deport folk who had hijacked a ‘plane to escape from Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia?

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How very dare you! I’ll have you know things were tough on my estate. The gamekeeper’s son was especially rough. I had to get pater to sack his father and evict the family from their cottage in the end.

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@The Observer wrote:

Scot = Hot, Shot, Snot, ermmm going downhill now soz :lol:

Hot Shot Hamish! One of my boyhood heroes.

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It’s certainly easy to be condescending towards you, Fester. It’s because you’re a massive twat. :D

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:lol: Well, the Captain causes me much mirth, Spocos.

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:lol: You’re famous ’round my house. Carry on that man!

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:lol: There’s no way I’ll be able to carry everyone’s severed heads. That’s just silly talk.

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