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:lol: I’d made the mistake of taking a few lessons off Frank Lampard.

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:-s Yeah, this long ball bobbins isn’t going to work. We’ve got to establish a pattern that’ll serve us as well when we’re playing in the Champions League in a few years time as it will now. As the saintly Mr Clough said, if football was supposed to be played in the air, God wouldn’t have put grass on the ground.

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Yeah, I agree Holistic. It is difficult to justify one and not t’other. I eat meat but, then again, I couldn’t give a toss about foxes either. Hope this helps. :D

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:-s Fuzzy wuzzies? Good grief, Tomski. Is that how Owen and I brought you up? You bring shame on my family with your fuzzies and your wuzzies. Where did we go wrong? I blame Owen. He was clearly not strict enough.

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Here’s more on the debate over resolution 242.

I wanted to add, Bigstuff, that if I seem to be taking the Israeli side in these comments, it is simply because I feel the need to counterpoise your admittedly one sided view of the situation and show that in my eyes there is fault and justification on both sides.

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It wasn’t me that said it, Bigstuff, it was included in Fester’s link that listed current violations of Security Council resolutions. Towards the end there is a passage that explains why some non-compliances are not mentioned including ‘…where the language is ambiguous enough to make assertions of non-compliance debatable, such as UNSC resolutions 242 and 338 on the Arab-Israeli conflict that put forward the formula of “land for peace”, to cite the most famous.’

I still maintain that little good would come of facing down the Israelis in order to extract British subjects. The idea is to save British lives, not to enter the war against Israel, which I suspect is your real motive.

As for laying waste, I can only reiterate that deaths in the hundreds and not the tens of thousands illustrate this not to be the case. Also, I can’t think of a single war that didn’t involve ‘war-crimes’. In my opinion, the whole idea of war crimes is cooked up in order to sanitise and legitimise war. The idea that there is a moral way to conduct war, especially in the modern world, is a filthy and pernicious aberration.

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@American Woman wrote:

I don’t think that any war can be won on the Short Term.

Britain vs Zanzibar, 1896. Forty-five minutes long. We won.

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:lol: I’d never really considered it as a cocktail. Best just the Pimms for me, old chap.

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Pimms for me, chapster. And if you’re going to be stewarding, get yourself a decent suit and silver platter, will you? Also, remember plenty of fruit.

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:lol: This might get me dropped to the bench or sold to Coventry – but, like Blackadder, I’m going to do it anyway..

(A knock at the door; Edmund opens it to find Pitt the Younger.)

Edmund: Well, well, well, if it isn’t the Lord Privy Toastrack! Pull up a muffin; sit yourself down.

Pitt the Younger: You don’t like me, do you, Mr. Blackadder?

Edmund: Well, nobody likes a loser.

Pitt the Younger: Oh, then that’s why nobody likes *you*.

Edmund: (serious) What?

Pitt the Younger: You lost the vote. Your monkey obligingly voted for us.

Edmund: Oh God, no… If you want something done properly, kill Baldrick before you start…

Pitt the Younger: You’re beaten, Oik! And you and your disgusting master have twenty-four hours to get out.

Edmund: Twenty-four hours is a long time in politics. Good day.

Pitt the Younger: There is just one thing before I go… (confidentially) I’ve got this sort of downy hair developing on my chest — is that normal? Also, I get so lonely and confused. I’ve written a poem about it; maybe you’ll understand. “Why do nice girls hate me? Why–

Edmund: Get out, you nauseating adolescent! (shoos him out the door) Piss off!

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