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11 June, 2008 at 11:57 pm #345025
@sharongooner wrote:
ahh it was the french foreign minister who said that, my apologies, I said president or prime minister.
I knew it was some twat with a title. :wink:
He should be pulled up for that, its disgusting.
Go get em Shazza :wink:
xx
11 June, 2008 at 11:43 pm #345023A preliminary or two :
First up, it’s sad to witness some of the upsetting, cruel (and very surprising) vitriol issuing forth on this thread :( and one would hope that with the benefit of a mature, less heated reflection a more temperate, apologetic hue can blossom.
One can hope :roll: .Secondly, it’s been a long source of minor irritation to many Irish that we have “Done better than most” out of the EU in it’s various evolutionary stages over the years. Granted, there has been much benefit, particularly in the 1980s, but this is far, VERY far from telling the full story of how the remarkable success of the Celtic Tiger economy came to be in recent times.
Many would argue that Ireland’s low corporate tax policy of the mid to late 90s which on many occasion flew in the face of and stood AGAINST EU mantra signaled the beginning of our golden economic age. Non EU investment flooded in (particulary from the US) and this together with the blossoming harmony both sides of the national divide began to enjoy, our continuing healthy relationship with the UK (a moderately Euro Sceptic nation) and our own increased levels of modern, secular education all reaped long overdue dividends.
Not to mention the success of Riverdance :lol:Right then…
Generally speaking, I have been pro Europe most of my adult life. Pro EU as a concept. I have (to the best of my ability) supported a large percentage of current EU mandates over the years including enlargement within the perameters of Nice etc..
Let’s face it, yes it has been good to and for Ireland… till now.Sensitive national issues such as neutrality, abortion and a common defence policy are already protected by the Maastrict protocol for the time being and it is my understanding (though I would not swear this as Gospel) that the reduction in the number of commissioners and changes to qualified majority voting were ratified under the Nice treaty as part of the enlargement package.
As such, both treaties represent the best possible deal for Ireland and other smaller member states.Which brings me to Lisbon..
Methinks that just a little too much squeeze is happening. Many may argue whether the Lisbon Treaty is one of the most noble or cynical vision of EU Entente , but surely none could disagree that it has been the most ill -applied undertaking.
Remember, in essence it is a mere re-hash of the doomed EU Constitution draft roundly rejected by the French and Dutch. A document smothered in vague “further down the line interpretations” and obfuscation.
Bully boys such as the French foreign minister preaching predictions of Ireland’s doom if the treaty is rejected do no good at allThe commonly held impression as my fellow countrymen and women take to the polls tomorrow is that the European Union is now trying to create a form of government which, through it’s (and I agree with the Gooner Bird here) utter complexity, it’s vastness and it’s (most damning) presumptuousness, cannot possibly be representative of those it governs.
My NO vote today will not mean NO to Europe : It will mean NO to the threat of a badly designed one.
It’s gonna be tight.
11 June, 2008 at 2:09 am #34515311 June, 2008 at 12:21 am #345150A truly lovely lady :) xx
Have a great day Cath!
Happy Birthday :D
xxx
10 June, 2008 at 10:10 pm #279542Many’s the time I ran with you down
The rainy roads of our old town
Many the lives we lived in each day
And buried altogether
Don’t laugh at me
Don’t look away
You’ll follow me back
With the sun in your eyes
And on your own
Bedshaped
And legs of stone
You’ll knock on my door
And up we’ll go
In white light
I don’t think so
But what do I know?
What do I know?
I know..I know you think I’m holding you down
And I’ve fallen by the wayside now
And I don’t understand the same things as you
But I do
Don’t laugh at me
Don’t look away
You’ll follow me back
With the sun in your eyes
And on your own
Bedshaped
And legs of stone
You’ll knock on my door
And up we’ll go
In white light
I don’t think so
But what do I know?
What do I know?
I know..Oh and up we’ll go
In white light
I don’t think so
But what do I know?
What do I know?
I know..10 June, 2008 at 4:06 pm #321830Two great clips with great music from great movies featuring the great John Cusack :)
8)
10 June, 2008 at 11:21 am #343987@sugarnspice wrote:
Da diddley qa qa da diddley qa qa
Da diddley qa qa da diddley qa qa
:)
:lol: :lol:
Feckers.. can’t get that tune outta my head now :twisted:
9 June, 2008 at 4:24 pm #343976Hey Shaz x..
The Prince Charming would be moi of course :wink:
Ridicule is nothing to be scared of…
:P
9 June, 2008 at 4:17 pm #2817829 June, 2008 at 4:09 pm #256496.. See Ireland win the Rugby World Cup (yeah right) :lol:
.. See Ireland win the Footy World Cup (guffaw!) :lol:
.. Shag the arse off Charlize Theron :P
.. Assassinate Ronan Keating :twisted:
.. See Leeds back in the Premiership (uber guffaw!) – granted, that is stretching it a bit :roll:
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