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ALL OVER THE WORLD – Electric Light Orchestra

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@anc wrote:

Hate to tell you, that there is already a thread :( x

Yeah?
Ah sure that’s not really a problem is it?
Surely the world can live with two threads huh?
To be sure.. :)

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I can’t be too unfair in commenting on these books as I haven’t read them. But by all accounts they seem to possess that zeitgeist/ faddish quality that certain literary works have had over the years. Such a thing is not solely a modern phenomenon by any means, but certainly reaching stratospheric levels of saturation thanks to the very medium we are contributing to right now, together with other forms of immediate and popular publicity.
In saying that, I cannot recommend Suzanne Collins’ THE HUNGER GAMES series of books highly enough, or Lee Child’s JACK REACHER novels. Add to these Justin Cronin’s epic, apocalyptic vampire trilogy that began with THE PASSAGE and continues later this year with THE TWELVE and you have clever, well crafted works that reach (ha) far beyond any apparent “target” group of devotees.
Give them a bash if you can.

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Film Director.

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I’m not sure sure how such a creature as this, with blood on his hands, ended up sitting in a governing assembly as opposed to a jail cell but there you go.
I guess there are some things you have to swallow for the greater good, for that you have to admire the Queen.

It does make me wonder if Prince Phillip was asked to do this. His fondness for Mountbatten is well known so I can guess what his answer would’ve been.

Personally the sight of the man makes my skin crawl

Very well said.
I couldn’t agree more.
Imagine how I (and many others) felt when he ran in last years Irish Presidential election, receiving almost a quarter of a million first preference votes in the process?
Sometimes things just defeat me.

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Yes Mrs T, huge compromises have been made by many.. Right up to and including the Queen as illustrated yesterday.
I guess what irritates me is the petty approach to last year from McGuinness, and how if he professes to be an All Ireland, consensus politician, he didn’t respect the wishes of the vast majority of the people of Ireland and welcome the visit of the Queen there and then. No, instead he chooses to meet and greet on what is increasingly looking to be his own patch, a year later, north of the border (yet the very border that his movement supposedly continues to dispute).
It is becoming increasingly evident that this dispute is for the benefit of the great, unwashed Sinn Feiners down south who in their ignorance still see Britain as the enemy. After much blood spilling they have their seats and pensions in the north. They are the very establishment they set out to topple, not because it was unfair, a popular misconception of the Nationalist myth, no, because it was not THEM.
Now it is.
The likes of McGuinness know this all too well and are ploughing an anti establishment furrow down south. An angry, austere southern Ireland is now perfectly fertile ground for regression politics. As illustrated last year.
Be under no illusions here. This is a man and a movement that cares nothing or never has cared for Ireland or it’s global image, but only what it can get out of a blinkered, selective and xenophobic Nationalist agenda. Get for itself down south what it has reaped the rewards of up north. In this case, well paid political position and media coverage. In days gone by – the spoils of the Northern Bank robbery or the spoils of sympathy for hunger strikes and the martyrdom of Bobby Sands.
Makes one wonder.
And some times despair.
Despite the pseudo glow of this new peaceful dawn.
One trembles at the thought of what may happen when all of the trappings of this goodwill well begin to dry up.

Queen Elizabeth showed us humanity and dignity yesterday.
McGuinness, you will notice, showed very little of anything.

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I sympathise with the loss of your cousin Lucy.

I certainly won’t argue your personal opinions here.
As for “info” and what not? I’m more than happy to bow to your superior knowledge on that one.

But I’m afraid certain facts are irrefutable.
Yes, Dr Paisley is and was a member of the Orange Order, a sectarian organisation in many ways.
Yes.
But a terrorist army? No.
A group commited to terrorist acts and claiming exclusive responsibilty for atrocities in the name of a supposed political goal?
No.
One could argue that Paisley’s sulphuric rhetoric never helped and indeed actively antagonised, but nevertheless, love or loathe him, he was a parliamentarian.

I’m afraid I couldn’t fully understand some of your comments towards the end regarding the chronology of the Troubles, so I won’t dwell on that.

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I have no time whatsoever for McGuinness or Sinn Fein.
Say what you want about Dr. Paisley.. And there’s a lot that can be said .. But he was never the leader of an illegal army on these islands. He never sanctioned the murder of innocents in shopping centres or pubs. Never gave triumphal voice to the slaughter of pensioners, polishing their medals on Remembrance days.

It would shame me to say that I have any hate in my heart, but if any indeed lurks in there, then these utterly despicable creatures would be the beneficiaries.
This.. person.. was quite vocal in his protestations over Queen Elizabeth’s visit to the Republic last year. He and his Sinn Fein cohorts refused point blank to attend any engagements, including the Queen’s profoundly symbolic visit to the memorial of the 1916 leaders. The people who, I may add, Sinn Fein profess to glorify and emulate. So much so, that the many people who welcomed the Queen to Dublin last year, never got a chance to actually see her. Thanks to our friendly, neighbourhood “republicans”, most of the city was closed off. This sickening snub seems all the more hypocritical now considering yesterday’s events. It would seem McGuinness has no issues at all taking the Queens pound in the North as he is part of a representative assembly there. Down here is a different story that last years humiliating ignorance demonstrates. For Sinn Fein continue to feed off an opportunist, dinosaur republican mythology that is tragically still inherent in this at times morally retarded nation. A mythology that dictates that above anything else, Irishness must be defined as Not British at all times.

I actually felt sorry for the Queen yesterday.
How many times must the British and Southern Irish establishments pander in supplication to these bastards?
How many times must a British Monarch shake the hand of murderers?
How many times must a British PM apologise?
Where are the apologies for Warrington?
Or Birmingham?
No such thing.
Instead we get the sneering vulgarity of this gang of criminals. Brazen in fudging official questions of IRA membership as they have “won the war” and are now “in office”?
Not only a distinct lack of humility or penance, no, but what they see as a justifiable arrogance.
It makes my blood boil.
Disgusting.
I can only thank my parents for raising me in such a way as to not only avoid, but actively condemn this brand of aggressive, militant and ill educated nationalist mythology and the moral illiteracy of those who support it.

If Sinn Fein had supported the royal visit to the Republic last year, I would have greeted yesterday with a great degree of optimism.
Instead, if was just another cog in the chain of their relentless cynicism.
Yes, peace has been achieved in the North, but it’s despite such creatures as the one who shook the Queens hand yesterday.
Not because of them.

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One of the very best punda!

If you have an iPhone, watch it HERE

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@panda12 wrote:

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We were far too poor.
Come Christmas and Birthdays I’d usually get a couple of batteries with a card saying “Toy Not Included” :?

Couldn’t you have entertained yourself with potato peelings or river dancing? :P

*runs

I’m totally offended..

By the Riverdance part :wink:

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