[Sian]

I do, cuff my muff I say… haha!

Thanks guys n gals.

Still partying

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I’ve youtubed but it only shows snippits, I’ll catch up with on demand.

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@esmeralda wrote:

@*Sian wrote:

Pat you are talking about people who go out on the weekend and drop copious amounts of drugs then probably don’t even have a tickle in the week, these people could become addicts but nobody would be able to tell which ones would and wouldn’t.

I smoke and drink, I am still an addict in some way, my mum feels for me smoking the way I do, she has been stopped for years, I manage it for a while ( longest 2 years) but I struggled for the whole 2 years, :roll: :lol: I think I have an addictive nature, anything I do regular enough I become addicted :lol: :oops:

Everyone has the right to their own thoughts but a bit of compassion can go along way 8)

Look, this isn’t really about compassion or not having compassion. In a nutshell. it’s about so-called ‘celebrity’ addicts being lauded, admired, feted – whilst Jo Bloggs addict is mocked, jeered and derided.
I’m addicted to morphine..insofar as I can’t stop it without horrendous withdrawal symptoms. Every so often, the toxins build up in my system, my kidneys pack in blah blah blah. The worst thing is the hallucinations, and the worst of those in January 2006, were so foul and debauched and overwhelmingly terrifying, that weeks later I remember swearing that never again would I blame an addict for doing whatever..WHATEVER it took to get a fix. So I DO understand, and I know how easy it is to become addicted. It’s just neither big nor clever, that’s all.

I admire Amy Winehouse for her talent not for her addictions, I don’t think she is big nor clever, I just feel for the situation she has gotten herself into as I do for the joe bloggs. I work along side addicts and they come from all walks of life, some well to do some not.
In my eyes all deserve a little compassion.

Your addiction is no fault of your own, unlike Amy Winehouse who chose to start on the downhill spiral of drugs but I have the same amount of compassion for both situations.

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@pete wrote:

and why are the rich and famous held in such esteem and the poor and homeless kicked in the teeth Amy, Keith Moon, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix what great people what wonderful examples look at them the norty sods smashed up a hotel the little scamps oh how we laughed, what they’ve died well lets just make them even more famous lets praise them shout of them from the rooftops

Who does that?

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Pat you are talking about people who go out on the weekend and drop copious amounts of drugs then probably don’t even have a tickle in the week, these people could become addicts but nobody would be able to tell which ones would and wouldn’t.

I smoke and drink, I am still an addict in some way, my mum feels for me smoking the way I do, she has been stopped for years, I manage it for a while ( longest 2 years) but I struggled for the whole 2 years, :roll: :lol: I think I have an addictive nature, anything I do regular enough I become addicted :lol: :oops:

Everyone has the right to their own thoughts but a bit of compassion can go along way 8)

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@pete wrote:

@*Sian wrote:

@pete wrote:

@*Sian wrote:

@pete wrote:

Of course they’re less of a person Sian they got themselves in that position and now they expect what ? tolerance and sympathy ? As for talent thats a personal thing i dont think she is but if enough people like her stuff then she must be at least to them

So you are saying I am less of a person because i became a drug addict?

im saying you became less of a person while you were, you were hurting yourself and to some degree hurting others probably but your not now, you did something about it and should be commended for that but not sympathised with when you were an addict

I meant this Pete, you said i was less of a person for becoming a drug addict, to be commended for coming off them, good bad or indifferent, people deserve some form of sympathy. I never realised I’d become an addict, I didn’t set out to be one, my friend and I both used to be weekenders, I became addicted, she didn’t, so I am a lesser person than she is because she didn’t become an addict… I just wish you’d open your eyes, this world isn’t all black and white.

You became less of a person than you were drugs alcohol do that, i never said you became a bad person now did i, or that you or anyone else were worse in comparison to another, never intimated you set out to be an addict no one does. Dont read between lines theres not always anything to read and i know it aint black and white some people are driven some just become thats shades isnt it ?

And I told you that I still had a loving caring nature, still held down a job and paid my bills, why am I a lesser person?

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@pats wrote:

ok i have read most of this thread. i’m interested in the rich an famous bit…..so can anyone tell me which catogory..peaches geldof falls into????…….already at the tender age of 18 she has run away and got married…..been splashed all over the tabloids buying drugs ect.
does she have inner demons caused by her parents splitting up when she was 11??her mother running off with micheal hutchence and the overdosing on heroin and killing herself at 42.
or is she another spoiled brat brought up by a rich daddy…had everything handed to her on a plate and despite being kept mostly out of the limelight by her strict straight talking father bob…has inevitably gone down the road of .it cant happen to me???
i abhor drugs .always have.made no pretence of the fact when me and smiley went head to head a long time ago on a similiar thread.
but i’m also a hypocrite….i refer to drugs as spliffs…coke.heroin…e/s….uppers.downers…an anything else people swallow sniff or inject to make their night out go with more of a buzz.
yet……………i smoke…..and i drink.
i dont think i drink enough to end up like george best…..but i’m certainly in line for lung cancer or any other cancer caused by nicotene.
spose i’ll have to sit firmly on the fence on this one althho i have found this thread facinating. in one corner the people defending individuals who are addicted by choice……ordinary everyday people who we know.
and the people defending the rich and famous who know exactly what they are doing.
so back to peaches…..how many 18 yr olds have £150 to go to a dealer and think nothing of it except a rollicking from daddy when he opens the news of the world…..or the kid next door who will pinch his mums catalogue money…..rob the old lady down the road on her way back from the post office……..go theiving to order….
whos to blame?????

Pat’s this is all true, you say you you could never drink to excess usch as George best, who knows, nobody knows, if you were to do it regular enough your body would crave it, alcoholism is a mental and physical craving.

I will sympathise with any form of addict, I still drink and smoke, I can’t be a bigot, I know how easy it is to become addicted and I feel for those that try to stop but they haven’t got the will or the way, this is my only arguement. Narrow minded people are a form of addict themselves, they won’t let their minds open to others misfortunes and be sympathetic.

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I didn’t but I’ll be sure to MJ, I lurveeeee Stevie Wonder xx

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@pete wrote:

@*Sian wrote:

@pete wrote:

Of course they’re less of a person Sian they got themselves in that position and now they expect what ? tolerance and sympathy ? As for talent thats a personal thing i dont think she is but if enough people like her stuff then she must be at least to them

So you are saying I am less of a person because i became a drug addict?

im saying you became less of a person while you were, you were hurting yourself and to some degree hurting others probably but your not now, you did something about it and should be commended for that but not sympathised with when you were an addict

I meant this Pete, you said i was less of a person for becoming a drug addict, to be commended for coming off them, good bad or indifferent, people deserve some form of sympathy. I never realised I’d become an addict, I didn’t set out to be one, my friend and I both used to be weekenders, I became addicted, she didn’t, so I am a lesser person than she is because she didn’t become an addict… I just wish you’d open your eyes, this world isn’t all black and white.

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Ahaaa Bigots! My fave kind of people. :lol:

If we are talking Bogits, my son made me a lovely one on a school trip to sherwood pines :roll: :lol:

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