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@emmalush wrote:
@waspish wrote:
i do believe without doubt the terrible extremes the naziz did were real, and i honestly think that anyone who denies it on a self imposed technicallity is devoid of reasoning at all. we dont need to see photographs of people actually being gassed. to know that it happened. there were piles of bodies 18 feet high, isnt this proof enough emma ? sureley you dont beieve it didnt happen ?
I believe 6 million people were murdered by the foul nazis, and im inclined to believe in the possibility of them using gas chambers, but to just believe that gas chambers existed at all without proof is childish.
Stalin used gas chambers, i have no proof, but you have to believe me :wink:
There is mountins of evidence, but zero proof.
There was mountins of evidence that both England or France would win that game of football, but only one could.
Ever been to Birkenau? Ever read the testimony of the guards and the prisoners? Evidence is proof you feckwit- your argument is like saying all the evidence that Denis Nilsson killed 18 men fine- but now show me the proof
You ignorance is boundless- I take education wasnt a strong point in your childhood :wink:
@Forget Me Not wrote:
Actually he is historically correct. during the middle ages the Roman Catholic church used the image of hell and the concept of damnation in order to coerce and frankly bully frightened, and unintelligent, members of the masses so that they would pour money into their coffers which they then spent on their debauched lifestyle. One perfect example of this was the ‘indulgences’ they sold to people in order to give them a sort of ‘get-out-of-hell-free card’. hell even when the church split into protestants and catholics it was still pretty miserable to be a religious follower. To be frank the main reason that religious leaders are saying that ‘things are different now’ is because we as a nation (should) no longer be dominated by fish-eyed idiots who believe everything you tell them… (I’ve probably lost all context to the point at hand, but since when did that matter on this site)
Completely agree that historically religion was used to coerce, to subdue, to oppress and to extort the masses
But in the 21st Century, is there really a fearful mass who do exactly what their priest, rabbi or vicar says? Probably only in Islam is that level of obedience still in exsitence- the idea that the CoE keeps us little englanders in check is frankly laughable
No feckwit
Im what you call a liberal right winger
I’d hang every drug dealer, paedo n murderer from the highest lampost, I’d make prisoners work 14 hour days on chain gangs cleaning up the sh/it that anti social scum leave behind, I’d make said anti-social scum give up every single right they had, every penny they had, every luxury they had n give it all to the old’s.
I just don’t care what colour, creed or race you are- we’re all the same
A feckwit is a feckwit no matter colour n a good egg is a good egg no matter what colour
I just dont like any organisation that choses to have as a policy the betterment of one colour AT THE EXPENSE of another
N I don’t care what colour, creed etc that organisation represents
Simple as
@fastcars wrote:
The rate of income tax in Holland is 42%. That isnt for high earners. Thats what Joe average pays. Thats almost double what you lot pay isnt it?
The public transport infrastructure here is second to none.
There is no such thing as a NHS system. Why? Because it simply doesnt work.
Hospital waiting lists. What are they?
There are schools a plenty, and not run as they are in the UK with all kids, no matter how intelligent or dumb they are, thrown into the same school. Kids are put into schools that are suited to their ability’s. (I think you are trying out a similair stystem over there with so called “special” schools. Except here the system has been up and running for years and is a normal part of school education “all” over the country and not just in certain citys).
The bottom line is. If you want top quality services you have to pay for them. Goverments can be voted out of power in England at the mere threat of raising income taxes by as little as 1p in the pound. The whole country would be up in arms at the thought of such a thing. Thats why you get stealth taxes. Because you all moan about the state your country is in but when asked to pay something towards putting it right the answer is a resounding NO!Have to agree with Fast on this one
This country is materialistic beyond belief but ask them to pay more in tax to properly fund healthcare, transport, education, law and order etc and everyone is up in arms and suddenly whinging
Not really sure how the masses are controlled in a country where only 5% of Christians go to church
Wasp
read this first paragraph from the BNP’s mission statement- Ive highlighted the bits which treat non whites
“The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia. We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe.The migrations of the Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Norse and closely related kindred peoples have been, over the past few thousands years, instrumental in defining the character of our family of nations”
In other words (like Hitler with his Arayan race)- white, anglo saxon indigenous NOT indigenous by birth
Oh, here’s another policy
“introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin”
Doesn’t the term “legally here” offend you when it relates to people who are 3rd and 4th generation BWI- who are as British as you and I but the BNP chose to see them as “legally here” RATHER THAN BRITISH CITIZENS? In other words, we’ll suffer you being here but feck off back to where you came from please- it is vomit inducing that any political party seeks to stand out as a “white’s only” party- THATS WHY THEIR NOT A TRUE “BRITISH” NATIONAL PARTY
It doesnt seek to return Irish, American, European, Australian etc back to their own countries, ONLY those who arent white :wink:
The SNP havent, in their manifesto said- “all Scots with Italian backgrounds- feck off back home”- if they did, they’d lose virtually every seat at the next election-so why does it make it right that the BNP do?]
Another point- heres there policy on healthcare
“HEALTH – first-class healthcare for all!
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens“
Remember Wasp, they havent call anyone who isnt white a “British citizen”, they’ve just called them “legally here”- hence healthcare for non whites would be removed
If they sought to have a fair system for ALL Britons, then they’d be a true national party.
If you want a debate about our taxation system etc then Im happy to but not on this thread
N finally, blaming your son’s ability to afford housing on Asian housing associations is a little bit tenuous- perhaps more to do with the booming housing market- perhaps he could do what my son has already started saving up for- buying a Winnebago n living in his dads driveway!
As I said- get rid of policies which treat non whites as non Britons (they can’t even bear to call them British) n you’d be amazed how many more votes they’d get
Wake up n smell the roses ffs
@bassingbourne55 wrote:
I wonder if anyone’s ever tried to belong to more than one religion. I mean, you could a Muslim on Friday, a Jew on Saturday, a Christian on Sunday and and an atheist for the other four days!
You just want to hedge your bets for as many bank holidays as possible :lol:
And of course getting rid of policies which treat anyone who isnt white as a second class citizen (well, actually not a citizen at all)
Get rid of those and what’s left may well float a few people’s boats- I would expect them to do fairly well in May’s local elections
I told Mrs Slayer to expect 8 inches when she woke up this morning…..boy, was she disappointed :shock:
@waspish wrote:
@slayer wrote:
I’m sorry Wasp but to state “no one has proved” and continually say “that doesnt mean it happened” is like saying “prove you exist” and when you stand in front of me, I’ll say “still doesnt prove it!”
It is the most ridiculous thing you can possibly imagine- to conitnue to deny something in the presence of absolute proof
Do you seriously, genuinely believe that “no-one” has “proved” the events of the Holocaust in WW2?
you are an abserlute pillock slayer. what i said was “does emma believe it.” i certainly do and as far as i kow the terrible events that happened to the jews was, is and does stand to be proven. you dumb bstard get yer eyes tested.fuuukwit :roll:
“but as you say no one has proved it, i have to ask the question”.
The very last sentence from your post
Now make yer feckin mind up
Either you believe it or you don’t
On one post you’re saying its proven and on another post you’re saying “no one has proved it, I have to ask the question”
Not difficult is it :wink:
