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15 August, 2007 at 7:31 am #282160
I think you will find that its called transference
Hypocricy is the new black nowadays
On places like more and more people will see the stating of any view that doesnt agree with theirs as a personal attack, but will not apply the same assumption when THEY state one that doesnt fall inline with somoene elses. They see THEIR right to state what they think, but throw a childish hissy fit if someone else DARES to have the audacity to also post their view lol
There were loads of numpties like that having sulky strops at the suggestion the parents were to blame or could even have been involved when this story first broke and were whinging that it was “nasty” to say such things about such poor poor people coz they have just lost a child lol
Well nah, soz
As far as I am concerned no amount of personal “claimed” suffering should be a get out of jail free card where accepting and facing up to personal responsibility, blame and culpability are concerned either directly or indirectly
Society if growing weak by this modern culture of victim worship, we need a reinsurgence of personal responsibility and integrity
15 August, 2007 at 7:22 am #278573@(f)politics? wrote:
Now for the thread i think in some cases abortion may be the answer for example pregnancy through rape some people couldnt and dont want to bring a child into the world conceived in this way and i completely support their decision to do what they feel they must, what right have any of us got to judge what someone else chooses to do with their bodies.
But F, you said
“in some cases abortion may be the answer for example pregnancy through rape some people couldnt and dont want to bring a child into the world conceived in this way and i completely support their decision to do what they feel they must”
Which is a VERY conditional statement isnt it, and a conditional statement implies there are other scenarios you WOULDNT approve of
Which contradicts the last senstence really doesnt it?
Otherwise examples of WHEN you agree with it wouldnt be needed and you’d have just said “if someone wants an abortion under ANY circumstances what right have any of us got to judge what someone else chooses to do with their bodies”
wouldnt ya lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
15 August, 2007 at 7:17 am #278572@lil fek wrote:
No, they don’t have any say unless it is a loving relationship (boo make fun of hoo) because quite frankly Uber you are just a sperm donor, nothing more; nothing less, thats all you are, get used to it!
It is the women’s body, the woman’s right to choose if she keeps the fetus..NOT YOURS….but if you decide to impregnate a woman and they can prove it then you pay for your spawn..so be careful where you leave your spunk.
I don’t know who you associate with but from your obvious insults to women it’s someone that has hurt and taken advantage of you and for that I’m sorry. Not all women are like that!
PMSL, you couldnt be aby further from acuracy hehe, I raise my two kids, not my ex, ME!
What youre reading here is a view based on fairness and equality, concepts women and society at large cant grasp or understand
But, lets look at what you said for a moment and apply it equally
IF as you say a man shouldnt have any choice MERELY because he agreed to have recreational sex then surely that SHOULD be applied equally to women
In which case if SHE lets someone deposit spunk in her slime chute she should equally have no say in the matter and therefore shouldnt have the access to an abortion of a healthy foetus
And as for the “unless youre in a relationship” nonsense lol, what planet do you live on? Cgeck your facts, no man has ANY say in whether a foetus he has fertilised is allowed to gestate unless the woman chooses to give him some say in it whether its a one night stand or a 20 year marriage
My point here isnt a vitriolic one just a literal common sense one
IF someone wants ALL of the responsibility for ANY choice in life then with that they should ALSO be grown up and mature enough to also shoulder ALL of the responsibilities attached to that choice
Its really as simple as that
And if (as women seem to think) just by agreeing to have sex a man is ALSO agreeing to support offspring for 18 years that should ALSO, EQUALLY apply to them which then solves the abortion dilema totally dont it?
Obviously I wouldnt expect you to grasp such rudimentary simplistic concepts as equality, fairness and personal responsibility tho coz youre female, but that alone isnt any reason not to state the point tho
15 August, 2007 at 7:08 am #278571@calamity wrote:
only in the papers today there was an 18 yr old who had… had 5 abortins surely thats not right?
Would you rather the had 5 kids and an evergrowing benefit pay out then?
Whinging about this kind of thing doesnt really accomplish anything tho, UNLESS someone can actually offer a better REAL world solution then no matter how many abortions someone has its STILL better than them having unwanted kids
You cant on the one hand whinge and whine about it being a womans body, her choice, her right etc and THEN in a completely hypocritical manner want to get her to do something totally different lol, jeez, some people haha
If someone has 50 abortions they are ALL her right, ALL to do with HER body, HER choice et al
:lol: :lol:
15 August, 2007 at 7:01 am #282158Well said Cas
:)
14 August, 2007 at 11:03 pm #282749Not being there for your children sets far more “standards” than people realise, for one it sets the standard they will most of the time achieve when they themselves are the parent
14 August, 2007 at 11:01 pm #282156I have to admit I will be letting out a little chuckle at the naive idiots who saw fit to criticise anyone suggesting it MIGHT have been the parents throughout this IF it turns out they were involved
It seems its ok to “lambast” someones views as long as its on the side of naive gullible idiocy but just not under any other circumstances lol
However you dice this or try and dress it up in a limp wristed PC, left wing, touchy feely frock the PARENTS killed this girl whether they were implicitly involved or not, and thats that
They killed their daughter because socialising was more important to them than their childrens safety, end of
14 August, 2007 at 10:47 pm #282089Does anyone know if she said thank you for the milkshake?
14 August, 2007 at 10:45 pm #282747I woould question whether being a proffessional AND a parent is possible
The more time given to a career the less time is available for a child WHEN needed so not being brain washed by post modern feminist nonsense I really dont think someone, anyone can do both
EITHER youre a good parent or you build a career, otherwise you do niether as well as you could have done without the other
14 August, 2007 at 10:42 pm #282154Well duh, they SHOULD have been under scrutinty from day one
The parents should be the FIRST not the last people to be investigated, suspected and charged or ruled out in any case like this, its only the pathetic whinging of bleeding heart doo gooder liberals that makes doing so seem wrong when infact its just plain old common sense
Plus this two (IMO) just dont seem right to begin with as no decent parents leave kids that age alone under ANY circumstances, even if by some freakish chance it turns out they arent involved I think they should be strung up for complicity for being such irresponsible parents because they might as well have helped bludgeon the wee lass to death with their bare hands anyway by how easy they made it IF they werent involved
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